Full before landing checklist in the pattern?

Steve Robertson wrote:

Seat belts, gas on, mixture, carb heat, land. How can you do any more or
any less in a Cessna 172/152/150? Please enlighten me.

Skip the seatbelts. Probably the gas too in a 172.

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:36:14 GMT, Newps wrote:

Skip the seatbelts.

That's probably the only thing on the list required by regulation:


http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/c...4cfr91_00.html
§ 91.107 Use of safety belts, shoulder harnesses, and child
restraint systems.
...
(2) No pilot may cause to be moved on the surface, take off, or
land a U.S.-registered civil aircraft (except a free balloon that
incorporates a basket or gondola, or an airship type certificated
before November 2, 1987) unless the pilot in command of that aircraft
ensures that each person on board has been notified to fasten his or
her safety belt and, if installed, his or her shoulder harness.

(3) Except as provided in this paragraph, each person on board a
U.S.-registered civil aircraft (except a free balloon that
incorporates a basket or gondola or an airship type certificated
before November 2, 1987) must occupy an approved seat or berth with a
safety belt and, if installed, shoulder harness, properly secured
about him or her during movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing.
For seaplane and float equipped rotorcraft operations during movement
on the surface, the person pushing off the seaplane or rotorcraft from
the dock and the person mooring the seaplane or rotorcraft at the dock
are excepted from the preceding seating and safety belt requirements.
....

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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:36:14 GMT, Newps wrote:


Skip the seatbelts.


That's probably the only thing on the list required by regulation:

Yeah, that's my point. Who takes them off?

Newps wrote:

That's probably the only thing on the list required by regulation:

Yeah, that's my point. Who takes them off?

You never know. Actually, it doesn't matter. The reg requires you to notify
all passengers whether they have the belts on or not.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:36:01 GMT, Newps wrote in
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wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:36:14 GMT, Newps wrote:


Skip the seatbelts.


That's probably the only thing on the list required by regulation:

Yeah, that's my point. Who takes them off?

How can the PIC know if passenger(s) have their belts & harnesses
fastened, if s/he doesn't check?

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wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:36:14 GMT, Newps wrote:


Skip the seatbelts.


That's probably the only thing on the list required by regulation:

Yeah, that's my point. Who takes them off?

I do. They wrinkle my dress.

Tom

Your 10-year old in the back seat does. That's probably why the FARs
require this. Some DE will flunk you on a check ride if you neglect to
verify seat belt usage before landing.

Steve Robertson
N4732J 1967 Beechcraft A23-24

Newps wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:36:14 GMT, Newps wrote:


Skip the seatbelts.


That's probably the only thing on the list required by regulation:

Yeah, that's my point. Who takes them off?

my wife takes her seat belt off and lays the seat back on trips.
20-30 minutes out I have her put the seat up and put on her belt and I put
my shoulder belt back on.
As for landing checklist, gas - gear - prop - mixture, but by the time I
am at TPA I am at full rich and gear is usually down anyways.


Newps wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:36:14 GMT, Newps wrote:


Skip the seatbelts.


That's probably the only thing on the list required by regulation:

Yeah, that's my point. Who takes them off?

"Jeff" wrote in message ...
my wife takes her seat belt off and lays the seat back on trips.
20-30 minutes out I have her put the seat up and put on her belt and I put
my shoulder belt back on.

lol...

You're the guy who is so nervous, you won't land on anything shorter than
5000 feet, but you let your wife take her seat belt off during a flight, in
spite of the very real risk of turbulence that could easily break her neck.

Pretty funny...