Full before landing checklist in the pattern?

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David Megginson wrote:
('Vejita' S. Cousin) writes:

Define 'full'? I mostly fly C152 and GUMP pretty much covers
everything. I do speed/flaps as I fly the pattern.

What do you do for the "U" and "P" in a 152?

Check gear is down and welded.
Check prop pitch is fixed.

Actually when I was a student I did These days my actually
checklist is:

1. Seatbelts secure
2. Fuel both (not really necessary as I check this prior to takeoff too)
3. Mixture (as needed, normally full rich)

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In article ,
David Megginson wrote:
('Vejita' S. Cousin) writes:

Define 'full'? I mostly fly C152 and GUMP pretty much covers
everything. I do speed/flaps as I fly the pattern.

What do you do for the "U" and "P" in a 152?

2. Fuel both (not really necessary as I check this prior to takeoff too)

The engine is running isn't it? The only choices you have in the 152 are
BOTH and OFF. Frankly, we NEVER touched that lever.

Ron Natalie wrote:

Frankly, we NEVER touched that lever.

Absolutely! In my 150, it never got turned. After 25+ years in one position, I
felt that nothing good could happen by moving it.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

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Ron Natalie wrote:

Frankly, we NEVER touched that lever.

Absolutely! In my 150, it never got turned. After 25+ years in one position, I
felt that nothing good could happen by moving it.

Yep, unless the plane is on fire...

Ron Natalie wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...


Ron Natalie wrote:

Frankly, we NEVER touched that lever.

Absolutely! In my 150, it never got turned. After 25+ years in one position, I
felt that nothing good could happen by moving it.

Yep, unless the plane is on fire...

I turn the fuel valve all the way around on Cessnas before EVERY flight and teach my students to do
the same. It is a very nice thing to know that this valve can be turned BEFORE the plane catches
fire. It is also good to know how much force it takes. Of course when fueling Cessnas, it is best to
have this handle in anything but BOTH because some fuel will cross feed faster than you can climb down
the latter and scurry to the other side.

I teach this on Pipers too. I have had many a student that couldn't turn the Cherokee fuel selector
to OFF because he/she couldn't figure out the detent without some coaching. That's not a learning
process you have time for in a real emergency when the fuel needs to be shut off now.....

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Ron Natalie wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie wrote:

Frankly, we NEVER touched that lever.

Absolutely! In my 150, it never got turned. After 25+ years in one
position, I
felt that nothing good could happen by moving it.

Yep, unless the plane is on fire...

I turn the fuel valve all the way around on Cessnas before EVERY flight
and teach my students to do
the same. It is a very nice thing to know that this valve can be turned
BEFORE the plane catches
fire. It is also good to know how much force it takes. Of course when
fueling Cessnas, it is best to
have this handle in anything but BOTH because some fuel will cross feed
faster than you can climb down
the latter and scurry to the other side.
Yeah, we carry a pair of pliers and a screwdriver in case anything like
the fuel select handle breaks but we never fool whith the fuel tank select
while in the pattern. That's a pre-descent or in range item. I used to fly
with a wwII guy who would switch from right tank, to Off, let the engine
start to die, and then switch to left tank, as part of his preflight. He
explained that he was checking the fuel feed and fuel select integrity. made
sense, at least he knew that the lever was free and he had feed from both
tanks.
R.Wallace
I teach this on Pipers too. I have had many a student that couldn't turn
the Cherokee fuel selector
to OFF because he/she couldn't figure out the detent without some
coaching. That's not a learning
process you have time for in a real emergency when the fuel needs to be
shut off now.....