Short trip to Oshkosh

Jay

Is there a company that brews an 'original' German beer (like they
made in the 20's)? I can remember that taste back then growing up
(sipping from Dad's glass) and would love to get some with the strong
hop flavor they had.

Everything now is 'light' for the ladies and those who don't go out
and work with their hands year round.

Can remember landing and a jeep would meet the plane and hand out a
ice cold beer from a wash tub of cracked ice. Mech would hand to you
before you could get out of cockpit. Of course, sometimes it took a
beer before you 'could' get out of cockpit G

More beer stories. My boss was in a jungle E & E exercise and I flew
out in a U-10 with a ice cold six pack which I air dropped to them.
Referees said 'no fair and made them do that day of exercise over (

My boss had mixed emotions. The beer went down good after a week
living off the jungle but he had to spend another 24 hours out there
instead of home in bed with his wife (


Big John

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:35:13 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Lastly, but not leastly, I looked from Friar Tuck's towards the control
tower and imagined planes as far as my eye could see. It was a very cold
evening, and the air was as clear as it could ever be. With the sun
setting
in an orange and azure sky, I got back into my the car and vowed to make
it
there for AirVenture some day soon.

Good job. T-minus 8 months, 2 weeks and 1 day. See ya there!

On another note (completely off-topic, sorry), I visited the Pabst brewing
company in Milwaukee. It's all shut down now, but it is really a
fascinating
building complex. The big brew houses are like ten stories tall and all
brick. The smaller and older office building (ca.1880) has an obvious
german
influence with a cedar roof, stained glass symbology in the windows
depicting the beer-makers art, and large wooden doors. Some guy on the
street knew all about it and spent nearly an hour with me pointing out all
kinds of details and history. There's something about abandoned things
that
is endearing to me. I wish I could get inside that place.

Isn't that place cool? I toured it, back when it was a working brewery. It
was a sad day when I read that Pabst had shut down -- even though I disliked
their product. If only they had stuck with their original German recipe,
they'd still be brewing today... :-(

Thanks for the PIREP.

Is there a company that brews an 'original' German beer (like they
made in the 20's)?

Well, Big John, your quest for good beer ends he
http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/

Randy Sprecher -- a former Pabst brewmaster -- started his microbrewery in
Milwaukee, back in 1985, before microbrewing was popular. I've been
drinking it for probably 15 years, and it is the most amazing beer. Read
their history here at http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/sprhist.html .

As with all REAL beers, it contains just four ingredients: Water, hops,
barley and yeast. (No rice, please!)

Actually, an excerpt from the German Beer Purity Law of 1516 dictates the
following:

"Furthermore, we wish to emphasize that in future in all cities, markets and
in the country, the only ingredients used for the brewing of beer must be
Barley, Hops and Water. Whosoever knowingly disregards or transgresses upon
this ordinance, shall be punished by the Court authorities' confiscating
such barrels of beer, without fail."

Thus, Sprecher brews his beer that way. This not only makes it taste
better, but a side-benefit is that you can drink a fair bunch of it without
getting that horrible "Miller headache" that comes from consuming "beer"
that contains 27 chemicals, all designed to make the beer last forever.

Until a few years ago, Sprecher didn't even pasteurize the stuff, which
meant it had a shelf-life similar to milk. This was the absolute best beer,
but it didn't keep well, and it couldn't be transported -- so he now
pasteurizes it. I think it's lost a little bit of it's flavor -- but now I
can get it here in Iowa! :-)

(I used to have to fly to Milwaukee to fetch some once in a while. Along
with some good cheese, some fresh lake perch, and a couple of real Danish
kringles.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" writes:

(...Along
with some good cheese, some fresh lake perch, and a couple of real Danish
kringles.)

Jay, c'mon...you're killing me man....

Jay

Scanned the site.

What do you recommend for good 'old fashioned' beer? I note a bunch of
their beers they mixed in other ingredients and not just used the
stark minimum of what should be used for classic.

I'll look in the local stores for the brand and if I can find your
recommendations will try and report.

Big John


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:52:28 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Is there a company that brews an 'original' German beer (like they
made in the 20's)?

Well, Big John, your quest for good beer ends he
http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/

Randy Sprecher -- a former Pabst brewmaster -- started his microbrewery in
Milwaukee, back in 1985, before microbrewing was popular. I've been
drinking it for probably 15 years, and it is the most amazing beer. Read
their history here at http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/sprhist.html .

As with all REAL beers, it contains just four ingredients: Water, hops,
barley and yeast. (No rice, please!)

Actually, an excerpt from the German Beer Purity Law of 1516 dictates the
following:

"Furthermore, we wish to emphasize that in future in all cities, markets and
in the country, the only ingredients used for the brewing of beer must be
Barley, Hops and Water. Whosoever knowingly disregards or transgresses upon
this ordinance, shall be punished by the Court authorities' confiscating
such barrels of beer, without fail."

Thus, Sprecher brews his beer that way. This not only makes it taste
better, but a side-benefit is that you can drink a fair bunch of it without
getting that horrible "Miller headache" that comes from consuming "beer"
that contains 27 chemicals, all designed to make the beer last forever.

Until a few years ago, Sprecher didn't even pasteurize the stuff, which
meant it had a shelf-life similar to milk. This was the absolute best beer,
but it didn't keep well, and it couldn't be transported -- so he now
pasteurizes it. I think it's lost a little bit of it's flavor -- but now I
can get it here in Iowa! :-)

(I used to have to fly to Milwaukee to fetch some once in a while. Along
with some good cheese, some fresh lake perch, and a couple of real Danish
kringles.)

What do you recommend for good 'old fashioned' beer? I note a bunch of
their beers they mixed in other ingredients and not just used the
stark minimum of what should be used for classic.

Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy. Thus, I think the
Sprecher Amber is the best, and have been known to drive extraordinary
distances for it.

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer" nowadays?
Sales of the stuff has just skyrocketed, and you see people drinking it in
ever bar you go to.

Well, whenever we'd throw a party at poolside this past summer at the inn,
we ALWAYS made sure to have a bunch of "Light Beer" on ice, too -- for those
who might prefer it. We naturally assumed it would be the "beer" of choice
for the majority, as it is in bars.

Well, guess what? When given a choice between that swill, er, I mean "Light
Beer" and REAL beer -- the "Light Beer" goes untouched. Apparently the
marketing in bars is quite effective, but -- when given a side-by-side
choice, real beer wins every time.

At the end of the season we used a whole bunch of that stuff to boil
bratwurst -- and it isn't even very good for THAT.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I'll look in the local stores for the brand and if I can find your
recommendations will try and report.

Big John


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:52:28 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Is there a company that brews an 'original' German beer (like they
made in the 20's)?

Well, Big John, your quest for good beer ends he
http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/

Randy Sprecher -- a former Pabst brewmaster -- started his microbrewery
in
Milwaukee, back in 1985, before microbrewing was popular. I've been
drinking it for probably 15 years, and it is the most amazing beer. Read
their history here at http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/sprhist.html .

As with all REAL beers, it contains just four ingredients: Water, hops,
barley and yeast. (No rice, please!)

Actually, an excerpt from the German Beer Purity Law of 1516 dictates
the
following:

"Furthermore, we wish to emphasize that in future in all cities, markets
and
in the country, the only ingredients used for the brewing of beer must be
Barley, Hops and Water. Whosoever knowingly disregards or transgresses
upon
this ordinance, shall be punished by the Court authorities' confiscating
such barrels of beer, without fail."

Thus, Sprecher brews his beer that way. This not only makes it taste
better, but a side-benefit is that you can drink a fair bunch of it
without
getting that horrible "Miller headache" that comes from consuming "beer"
that contains 27 chemicals, all designed to make the beer last forever.

Until a few years ago, Sprecher didn't even pasteurize the stuff, which
meant it had a shelf-life similar to milk. This was the absolute best
beer,
but it didn't keep well, and it couldn't be transported -- so he now
pasteurizes it. I think it's lost a little bit of it's flavor -- but now
I
can get it here in Iowa! :-)

(I used to have to fly to Milwaukee to fetch some once in a while. Along
with some good cheese, some fresh lake perch, and a couple of real Danish
kringles.)

Jay Honeck wrote:
Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy. Thus, I think the
Sprecher Amber is the best, and have been known to drive extraordinary
distances for it.

The weird thing about people that like "old fashioned" German beer is they
seem to be such snobs about it. I personally think that "old fashioned"/
German/dark beers taste like crap. People have different tastes... like
the old saying goes... "that's why they make both chocolate and vanilla
ice cream".

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer" nowadays?
Sales of the stuff has just skyrocketed, and you see people drinking it in
ever bar you go to.

I prefer either Bud Light or Corona Light. When you're pounding back 8 to
10 beers, even a 20 or 30 calorie difference makes a diffence. But I
like lighter taste, too. I'll slam back a shot of whiskey if I really
need a bite.


Well, guess what? When given a choice between that swill, er, I mean "Light
Beer" and REAL beer -- the "Light Beer" goes untouched. Apparently the
marketing in bars is quite effective, but -- when given a side-by-side
choice, real beer wins every time.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people were bowing to peer pressure, since
you're always making such a big deal about "real" beer on the newsgroup.

-- Jay


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"Jay Masino" wrote in message
...
I prefer either Bud Light or Corona Light. When you're pounding back 8 to
10 beers, even a 20 or 30 calorie difference makes a diffence.

Eight to ten? Geez! There's not a beverage in the world of which I would
have any interest in drinking eight or ten in a row.

I'll admit, when you're not stopping to bother to taste the beer, I suppose
Bud or Corona (light or otherwise) is just as good as anything else. I
guess that's why those guys are still making lots of money.

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:
Eight to ten? Geez! There's not a beverage in the world of which I would
have any interest in drinking eight or ten in a row.

ok, maybe I'm exagerating a little, but when I go out to a nice Blues club
for 3 or 4 hours and listen to music...

I'll admit, when you're not stopping to bother to taste the beer, I suppose
Bud or Corona (light or otherwise) is just as good as anything else. I
guess that's why those guys are still making lots of money.

You're not getting it. Some people actually prefer "regular" or light
beer, and think dark beer tastes like crap. Beer snobs never seem to
accept that different people have different (not bad) tastes.

--- Jay

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I prefer either Bud Light or Corona Light. ....... I'll slam back a shot of whiskey if I really
need a bite.

Jay, there's really more "bite" in those highly-carbonated "light"
beers than in the darker beers. Guinness Stout has no "bit" at all.

What the darker beers have is more *flavor*.

vince norris

vincent p. norris wrote:
What the darker beers have is more *flavor*.

Yuck.


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