Short trip to Oshkosh

Ah, a man who drinks light beer and then Boiler Makers to make up the
difference G

Big John

On 12 Nov 2003 15:31:54 GMT, (Jay Masino)
wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:
Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy. Thus, I think the
Sprecher Amber is the best, and have been known to drive extraordinary
distances for it.

The weird thing about people that like "old fashioned" German beer is they
seem to be such snobs about it. I personally think that "old fashioned"/
German/dark beers taste like crap. People have different tastes... like
the old saying goes... "that's why they make both chocolate and vanilla
ice cream".

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer" nowadays?
Sales of the stuff has just skyrocketed, and you see people drinking it in
ever bar you go to.

I prefer either Bud Light or Corona Light. When you're pounding back 8 to
10 beers, even a 20 or 30 calorie difference makes a diffence. But I
like lighter taste, too. I'll slam back a shot of whiskey if I really
need a bite.


Well, guess what? When given a choice between that swill, er, I mean "Light
Beer" and REAL beer -- the "Light Beer" goes untouched. Apparently the
marketing in bars is quite effective, but -- when given a side-by-side
choice, real beer wins every time.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people were bowing to peer pressure, since
you're always making such a big deal about "real" beer on the newsgroup.

-- Jay


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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I
like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy.

No such thing as too chewy! Straight Guinness for me!

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer"
nowadays?

Yeah, and EVERYONE likes thin crust pizza, too. Yech. These are the same
people who will only eat Wonder Bread.

"Light Beer"
At the end of the season we used a whole bunch of that stuff
to boil bratwurst -- and it isn't even very good for THAT.

Filthy commie swill. I bet it sucked the soul right out of it.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Jay

My English friends call American beer P*ss. Sometimes I think their
right G

Best I had in WWII in Pacific Theater and in the mid years in Sydney,
was Aussie beer. Higher proof and good taste. Had authority also.

Saw the Amber on their site and it looked close. Of course Dark and
Light are at opposite ends of my spectrum for regular drinking..

Did you see the BA crew that got taken off their bird for imbibing
within the 8 hour rule? One had had 10 pints (man after my own heart)
and was running pre flight check list in cockpit.

If I can find will try and advise from a expert pallet.

Big John

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:17:14 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

What do you recommend for good 'old fashioned' beer? I note a bunch of
their beers they mixed in other ingredients and not just used the
stark minimum of what should be used for classic.

Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy. Thus, I think the
Sprecher Amber is the best, and have been known to drive extraordinary
distances for it.

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer" nowadays?
Sales of the stuff has just skyrocketed, and you see people drinking it in
ever bar you go to.

Well, whenever we'd throw a party at poolside this past summer at the inn,
we ALWAYS made sure to have a bunch of "Light Beer" on ice, too -- for those
who might prefer it. We naturally assumed it would be the "beer" of choice
for the majority, as it is in bars.

Well, guess what? When given a choice between that swill, er, I mean "Light
Beer" and REAL beer -- the "Light Beer" goes untouched. Apparently the
marketing in bars is quite effective, but -- when given a side-by-side
choice, real beer wins every time.

At the end of the season we used a whole bunch of that stuff to boil
bratwurst -- and it isn't even very good for THAT.

We usually call it "making love in a canoe".

Because it's ****ing close to water.

Paul

"Big John" wrote in message
...
My English friends call American beer P*ss. Sometimes I think their
right G

Jay

Article in Houston Chronicle today that they picked up from Orlando,
FL

Quote
Like chocolate and wine, the darker the beer, the better it may be for
your heart, according to a new study.

In a comparison of Guinness Stout, a dark beer, and Heineken, a light
beer, the darker brew had substantially more anti-clotting activity,
according to a U of Wisconsin-Madison scientist who presented his
findings at the American Heart Association annual meeting.

Guinness proved to be about twice as effective at preventing the blood
platelets from clumping and forming the kind of clot that can cause a
heart attack, according to the study's main author, John Folts, a
professor of medicine and nutritional director of the U of Wisconsin
Coronary Thrombosis Research and Vascular Biology Laboratory. The
beneficial effect comes from flavonoids in the beer.
Unquote

Guess your dark with the chewy flavor is the best for you to drink
after all G

John

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:17:14 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

What do you recommend for good 'old fashioned' beer? I note a bunch of
their beers they mixed in other ingredients and not just used the
stark minimum of what should be used for classic.

Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy. Thus, I think the
Sprecher Amber is the best, and have been known to drive extraordinary
distances for it.

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer" nowadays?
Sales of the stuff has just skyrocketed, and you see people drinking it in
ever bar you go to.

Well, whenever we'd throw a party at poolside this past summer at the inn,
we ALWAYS made sure to have a bunch of "Light Beer" on ice, too -- for those
who might prefer it. We naturally assumed it would be the "beer" of choice
for the majority, as it is in bars.

Well, guess what? When given a choice between that swill, er, I mean "Light
Beer" and REAL beer -- the "Light Beer" goes untouched. Apparently the
marketing in bars is quite effective, but -- when given a side-by-side
choice, real beer wins every time.

At the end of the season we used a whole bunch of that stuff to boil
bratwurst -- and it isn't even very good for THAT.

Big John wrote:

Like chocolate and wine, the darker the beer, the better it may be for
your heart, according to a new study.

Yeah - in general, the worse it tastes, the better it is for you? That's what
they used to think about butter versus margarine.

IMO, the more education they have, the less they know about what's good for
you.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:MKdsb.174142$Tr4.466739@attbi_s03...
Is there a company that brews an 'original' German beer (like they
made in the 20's)?

Well, Big John, your quest for good beer ends he
http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/

Man, your killin' me. The Sprecher brewery was what I was trying to find
when I was driving through town, but I missed it somehow and ended up at
Lake Michigan. I turned south and saw some of the grandest mansions I have
ever seen. From there, I turned back into town and found Pabst.

In my neck of the woods, the brewery of choice is the Carolina Brewing
Company. They put on a tour every Saturday at 1:00 and they open the taps
for about two hours offering very good beer, usually two regular varieties
and one seasonal. One time I went, they had a tap with a big number "6" on
it. I asked what it meant, and it had a double meaning: It was their 6th
anniversary, but the beer was 6% alcohol (two pints of that and you're real
happy!) You don't even have to buy a glass, they hand them out. The place is
full of regulars that are there every Saturday. They usually sell enough
bottled beer and souvenirs to cover the costs, but more importantly, they
win converts to spread the word. I work with a whole bunch of Wisconinites
and I know where they are every Saturday at around 1:00!

-Trent
PP-ASEL

Man, your killin' me. The Sprecher brewery was what I was trying to find
when I was driving through town, but I missed it somehow and ended up at
Lake Michigan. I turned south and saw some of the grandest mansions I have
ever seen. From there, I turned back into town and found Pabst.

Well, if you were looking for their old Milwaukee brewery, that was the
problem. They outgrew that facility several years ago, and moved to
Greenfield -- a suburb just north of Milwaukee, right off I-94.

Sounds like your "home" brewery is doing it right, though. Those beer
tasting/tours are the best!

We just lost one of our local micro-breweries, "Stone City Brewing" up in
Solon, IA. (First town north of Iowa City.) They just never quite got it
together, after almost ten years of trying, and their beer never matched
the "mouth feel" of a truly good micro-brew. Flavor wasn't bad, but the
texture was wrong.

It's sad, but it's a tough market.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:MKdsb.174142$Tr4.466739@attbi_s03...

Until a few years ago, Sprecher didn't even pasteurize the stuff, which
meant it had a shelf-life similar to milk. This was the absolute best beer,
but it didn't keep well, and it couldn't be transported -- so he now
pasteurizes it.

You know, this puzzles me immensely. We home-brew, although we're
far from experts. We don't pasteurize our product before bottling
it *shudder*, yet it keeps for months. Actually we usually keep
a few bottles back to see how it ages, and it sometimes improves
with age!

So I must admit to being puzzled by the "shelf life of milk"
and "couldn't be transported" concepts.

Cheers,
Sydney

Until a few years ago, Sprecher didn't even pasteurize the stuff, which
meant it had a shelf-life similar to milk. This was the absolute best
beer,
but it didn't keep well, and it couldn't be transported -- so he now
pasteurizes it.

You know, this puzzles me immensely. We home-brew, although we're
far from experts. We don't pasteurize our product before bottling
it *shudder*, yet it keeps for months. Actually we usually keep
a few bottles back to see how it ages, and it sometimes improves
with age!

So I must admit to being puzzled by the "shelf life of milk"
and "couldn't be transported" concepts.

Interesting. The reason we were told that Sprecher was limited in their
distribution area was because they didn't pasteurize their beer. As soon as
they started pasteurizing it, voila! -- we started getting it in Iowa.

I don't have any idea how you could make beer last months. Sprecher is
dated, and -- even now, pasteurized -- it tastes pretty icky after the date
on the bottle.

They were one of the first breweries to do this by the way -- I laugh when I
see Miller doing it now, like it's a new invention! (Especially when you
can keep a case of "Genuine Draft" in your garage for years, in hot or cold
weather, chill it -- and have it taste EXACTLY the same.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"