Short trip to Oshkosh

What do you recommend for good 'old fashioned' beer? I note a bunch of
their beers they mixed in other ingredients and not just used the
stark minimum of what should be used for classic.

Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy. Thus, I think the
Sprecher Amber is the best, and have been known to drive extraordinary
distances for it.

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer" nowadays?
Sales of the stuff has just skyrocketed, and you see people drinking it in
ever bar you go to.

Well, whenever we'd throw a party at poolside this past summer at the inn,
we ALWAYS made sure to have a bunch of "Light Beer" on ice, too -- for those
who might prefer it. We naturally assumed it would be the "beer" of choice
for the majority, as it is in bars.

Well, guess what? When given a choice between that swill, er, I mean "Light
Beer" and REAL beer -- the "Light Beer" goes untouched. Apparently the
marketing in bars is quite effective, but -- when given a side-by-side
choice, real beer wins every time.

At the end of the season we used a whole bunch of that stuff to boil
bratwurst -- and it isn't even very good for THAT.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I'll look in the local stores for the brand and if I can find your
recommendations will try and report.

Big John


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:52:28 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Is there a company that brews an 'original' German beer (like they
made in the 20's)?

Well, Big John, your quest for good beer ends he
http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/

Randy Sprecher -- a former Pabst brewmaster -- started his microbrewery
in
Milwaukee, back in 1985, before microbrewing was popular. I've been
drinking it for probably 15 years, and it is the most amazing beer. Read
their history here at http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/sprhist.html .

As with all REAL beers, it contains just four ingredients: Water, hops,
barley and yeast. (No rice, please!)

Actually, an excerpt from the German Beer Purity Law of 1516 dictates
the
following:

"Furthermore, we wish to emphasize that in future in all cities, markets
and
in the country, the only ingredients used for the brewing of beer must be
Barley, Hops and Water. Whosoever knowingly disregards or transgresses
upon
this ordinance, shall be punished by the Court authorities' confiscating
such barrels of beer, without fail."

Thus, Sprecher brews his beer that way. This not only makes it taste
better, but a side-benefit is that you can drink a fair bunch of it
without
getting that horrible "Miller headache" that comes from consuming "beer"
that contains 27 chemicals, all designed to make the beer last forever.

Until a few years ago, Sprecher didn't even pasteurize the stuff, which
meant it had a shelf-life similar to milk. This was the absolute best
beer,
but it didn't keep well, and it couldn't be transported -- so he now
pasteurizes it. I think it's lost a little bit of it's flavor -- but now
I
can get it here in Iowa! :-)

(I used to have to fly to Milwaukee to fetch some once in a while. Along
with some good cheese, some fresh lake perch, and a couple of real Danish
kringles.)

Jay Honeck wrote:
Well, your idea of "old-fashioned" might be different than mine. I like a
heavier, more "German" beer -- but not too chewy. Thus, I think the
Sprecher Amber is the best, and have been known to drive extraordinary
distances for it.

The weird thing about people that like "old fashioned" German beer is they
seem to be such snobs about it. I personally think that "old fashioned"/
German/dark beers taste like crap. People have different tastes... like
the old saying goes... "that's why they make both chocolate and vanilla
ice cream".

An aside. Didja ever notice how EVERYONE drinks "Light Beer" nowadays?
Sales of the stuff has just skyrocketed, and you see people drinking it in
ever bar you go to.

I prefer either Bud Light or Corona Light. When you're pounding back 8 to
10 beers, even a 20 or 30 calorie difference makes a diffence. But I
like lighter taste, too. I'll slam back a shot of whiskey if I really
need a bite.


Well, guess what? When given a choice between that swill, er, I mean "Light
Beer" and REAL beer -- the "Light Beer" goes untouched. Apparently the
marketing in bars is quite effective, but -- when given a side-by-side
choice, real beer wins every time.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people were bowing to peer pressure, since
you're always making such a big deal about "real" beer on the newsgroup.

-- Jay


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"Jay Masino" wrote in message
...
I prefer either Bud Light or Corona Light. When you're pounding back 8 to
10 beers, even a 20 or 30 calorie difference makes a diffence.

Eight to ten? Geez! There's not a beverage in the world of which I would
have any interest in drinking eight or ten in a row.

I'll admit, when you're not stopping to bother to taste the beer, I suppose
Bud or Corona (light or otherwise) is just as good as anything else. I
guess that's why those guys are still making lots of money.

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:
Eight to ten? Geez! There's not a beverage in the world of which I would
have any interest in drinking eight or ten in a row.

ok, maybe I'm exagerating a little, but when I go out to a nice Blues club
for 3 or 4 hours and listen to music...

I'll admit, when you're not stopping to bother to taste the beer, I suppose
Bud or Corona (light or otherwise) is just as good as anything else. I
guess that's why those guys are still making lots of money.

You're not getting it. Some people actually prefer "regular" or light
beer, and think dark beer tastes like crap. Beer snobs never seem to
accept that different people have different (not bad) tastes.

--- Jay

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"Jay Masino" wrote in message
...
You're not getting it.

Maybe not. But it's hard to "get it" when you make absurd statements. 20
or 30 calories difference might make a difference if you are actually
drinking ten beers. But it's hardly worth worrying about if you're drinking
five.

Differences in taste, that's perfectly understandable. But why bring the
calorie issue into the picture, if it's not relevant at all?

Pete

You're not getting it. Some people actually prefer "regular" or light
beer, and think dark beer tastes like crap. Beer snobs never seem to
accept that different people have different (not bad) tastes.

Actually, I feel the same way about people who claim to like "really" dark
beers, like Guinness or Oatmeal Stout. I think most dark beers taste like
sewage. I prefer a nice, crisp amber beer, with a good malty/yeasty
after-taste.

I also think folks who claim to like really dark red wines are nuts. I was
at a wine-tasting event last night (with Montblack, by the way -- he's
staying at the inn for a couple of days...), and people all around us were
raving about stuff that tasted like power steering fluid. I just don't get
it...

Let's leave it at this: On a really, really hot day (like after walking 10
miles at OSH) an ice-cold Bud tastes great!

But then, of course, so does ice water.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:aLSsb.193537$Tr4.545940@attbi_s03...
I also think folks who claim to like really dark red wines are nuts. I
was
at a wine-tasting event last night (with Montblack, by the way -- he's
staying at the inn for a couple of days...), and people all around us were
raving about stuff that tasted like power steering fluid.

You actually know what power steering fluid tastes like? I'd suggest that
if that's the case, you have bigger problems than whether to drink a fruity
red or an oaky red.

Let's leave it at this: On a really, really hot day (like after walking 10
miles at OSH) an ice-cold Bud tastes great!

But then, of course, so does ice water.

Yup. On a really, really hot day after walking 10 miles at OSH, I'd
probably drink just about anything as long as it was served up at 34 degrees
F.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ...


You actually know what power steering fluid tastes like? I'd suggest that
if that's the case, you have bigger problems than whether to drink a fruity
red or an oaky red.

Can't comment on power steering fluid, but us Navion pilots know what
hydraulic fluid tastes like. We swim in the stuff.

Jay Honeck wrote:
I also think folks who claim to like really dark red wines are nuts. I was
at a wine-tasting event last night (with Montblack, by the way -- he's
staying at the inn for a couple of days...), and people all around us were
raving about stuff that tasted like power steering fluid. I just don't get
it...

When I read this, I had to break into a big smile. Wouldn't you know it?
I'm a big Chianti fanatic! I think it's in my blood (100% italian). :-)

-- Jay


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When I read this, I had to break into a big smile. Wouldn't you know it?
I'm a big Chianti fanatic! I think it's in my blood (100% italian). :-)

Hmmm. I'm German, and like German beer. You're Italian, and like red wine.

I think we've discovered the obvious here?

(Maybe we should apply for a gubmint grant? They seem to get millions for
these kinds of "studies" all the time! :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"