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Old November 14th 03, 06:17 PM
Jay Honeck
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What does infidelity have to do with his legacy? Do you disdain Franklin
Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Dwight Eisenhower as well? In fact, if you

run
down the founding fathers John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and
Alexander Hamilton have all been accused of being adulterers. Who cares?


I, for one, believe that any President should be held to the highest moral
standards, for one simple reason:

If the guy lies to his *wife*, what chance do you think WE have with him?
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Old November 14th 03, 06:21 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:2%8tb.1931$Dw6.16125@attbi_s02...

If the guy lies to his *wife*, what chance do you think WE have with him?


What makes you think he lied to his wife? :-)

You can always tell when a politician is lying. His lips move.


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Old November 15th 03, 02:54 PM
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

news:2%8tb.1931$Dw6.16125@attbi_s02...

If the guy lies to his *wife*, what chance do you think WE have with

him?

What makes you think he lied to his wife? :-)


Maybe because she konked him with an ashtray?

You can always tell when a politician is lying. His lips move.


Ahhh...the distinction between a "politician" and a "statesman"!!!


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Old November 14th 03, 06:32 PM
Michael 182
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Sorry, I don't see any correlation between fidelity, infidelity, and public
service. People's private lives are just that, private. We've had plenty of
examples of both good and bad presidents (and leaders in general) who were
adulterers. Unfortunately the press no longer sees it that way.

As an aside, I may be cynical, but I believe every President lies to the
public, both through omission and commission. They'd never get elected or be
able to govern if they were completely honest.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:2%8tb.1931$Dw6.16125@attbi_s02...

If the guy lies to his *wife*, what chance do you think WE have with him?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old November 14th 03, 06:51 PM
Cecil E. Chapman
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Well if repeated infidelity is not a problem with you,,, what about
abandoning a girlfriend to drown (one Kennedy) and murdering another woman
(still another, younger Kennedy). They just aren't an honorable bunch...

By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" Sounds like
something today's extreme right wingers would say....

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"Michael 182" wrote in message
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Sorry, I don't see any correlation between fidelity, infidelity, and

public
service. People's private lives are just that, private. We've had plenty

of
examples of both good and bad presidents (and leaders in general) who were
adulterers. Unfortunately the press no longer sees it that way.

As an aside, I may be cynical, but I believe every President lies to the
public, both through omission and commission. They'd never get elected or

be
able to govern if they were completely honest.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:2%8tb.1931$Dw6.16125@attbi_s02...

If the guy lies to his *wife*, what chance do you think WE have with

him?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"






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Old November 14th 03, 06:56 PM
Jay Honeck
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By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" Sounds like
something today's extreme right wingers would say....


Wow -- I never thought about it that way.

Interesting (and somewhat disturbing) correlation...
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
. com...


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Old November 14th 03, 07:32 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
. com...
Well if repeated infidelity is not a problem with you,,, what about
abandoning a girlfriend to drown (one Kennedy) and murdering another woman
(still another, younger Kennedy). They just aren't an honorable bunch...


I would hate to be judged by the behavior of some of my relatives. If
you're going to hate me, hate me for my own actions, not those of someone
else.

By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"


Um. Wrong three-initial president. Try FDR.

Pete


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Old November 14th 03, 07:37 PM
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No, I believe he got it right. From JFK's 1961 inaugural. FDR's most famous
line was "We have nothing to fear but fear itself"

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
. com...

By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"


Um. Wrong three-initial president. Try FDR.

Pete




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Old November 14th 03, 08:20 PM
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"Michael 182" wrote in message news:L9atb.200777$Fm2.189251@attbi_s04...
No, I believe he got it right. From JFK's 1961 inaugural. FDR's most famous
line was "We have nothing to fear but fear itself"

Or Pat Paulsen's "We have nothing to fear but fear itself...and the boogeyman."

His other great polictical idea was to turn the deficit into a governement program and
then start cutting back until it is elimimated entirely.


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Old November 15th 03, 02:56 PM
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"Michael 182" wrote in message
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No, I believe he got it right. From JFK's 1961 inaugural. FDR's most

famous
line was "We have nothing to fear but fear itself"


Actually, we're now finding out we had plenty to fear from FDR himself.


 




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