JFK

Ron Natalie wrote:

November 22 is Margy's birthday as well. I'm omit the year so as to not incriminate
myself.

A wise man!

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

In article , "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:

In most courses/seminars about leadership, surveyed people
consistently believe that honesty, integrity, morality are highly
valued characteristics of the best leaders.

Actually, I don't want politicians who are leaders. Hitler's title was
"the
leader". Mussolini's title was "the leader". Whatever happened to the
idea that
the president and Congreass are *servants* of the people?

Don't take such a narrow view of what a leader is. The US President
can be both a servant of the people as well as a good leader.

--
Bob Noel

"Michael 182" wrote in message
news:FK8tb.146868$mZ5.1002812@attbi_s54...
| What does infidelity have to do with his legacy?

Okay, what was his legacy?

"Profiles in Courage" was ghost written.

Almost everything he took credit for was actually the work of others.

He did claim to be a jelly donut (literal translation of "Ich bin ein
Berliner"), but the wall that went up on his watch came down on the hated
Reagan's watch.

Fidel still runs Cuba.

Laos went Communist anyway.

The Apollo program was good.

But, why are most of my memories of him playing touch football on the White
House lawn?

And why do so many historians regard him as one of the most corrupt
Presidents in history (possibly second only to LBJ)?

Really, the whole Kennedy mystique seems to be a product, not of the
Kennedys, but of Jacqueline.

"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
. com...
| Well if repeated infidelity is not a problem with you,,, what about
| abandoning a girlfriend to drown (one Kennedy) and murdering another woman
| (still another, younger Kennedy). They just aren't an honorable bunch...
|
| By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
| country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" Sounds like
| something today's extreme right wingers would say....
|

In many respects JFK WAS an extreme right winger.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Peter Duniho wrote:

By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"

Um. Wrong three-initial president. Try FDR.

Nope. JFK. I've seen the newsclip at least 20 times in my life.

Correct. It's from his inaugural address. I was in 2nd grade I bet I've
seen in 50+ times since then.

You missed the point. I'm not arguing whether he was a good or bad
president. I'm just saying that his infidelity has nothing to do with his
political successes or failures. You make some good points regarding his
failures, and those are appropriate to measure hs career by, not his
personal life.


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Michael 182" wrote in message
news:FK8tb.146868$mZ5.1002812@attbi_s54...
| What does infidelity have to do with his legacy?

Okay, what was his legacy?

"Profiles in Courage" was ghost written.

Almost everything he took credit for was actually the work of others.

He did claim to be a jelly donut (literal translation of "Ich bin ein
Berliner"), but the wall that went up on his watch came down on the hated
Reagan's watch.

Fidel still runs Cuba.

Laos went Communist anyway.

The Apollo program was good.

But, why are most of my memories of him playing touch football on the
White
House lawn?

And why do so many historians regard him as one of the most corrupt
Presidents in history (possibly second only to LBJ)?

Really, the whole Kennedy mystique seems to be a product, not of the
Kennedys, but of Jacqueline.

Big John writes:

40 years ago today...
announced that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas

Eh? That was November 22. Not today. Or am I in a time warp.

"Michael 182" writes:

What does infidelity have to do with his legacy?

Not much of a legacy. He was only in office 3 years so didn't have
much time...Cuba was a disaster every way, after the nuke showdown
Cuba didn't have any missles BUT they had a promise of no invasion by
us. A win for the Soviets though I guess they didn't see it that way.

JFK simply didn't get much done. But he was studly and that's what
counts in the world.

Big John wrote:
40 years ago today I was ferrying a F-89J from the Maine Air Guard at
Bangor, ME to the Oregon Air Guard at Portland OR. Chugging along at
20K, keeping under the big jet stream blowing east, I was about 150
out of Oklahoma City, my next refueling stop, when ATC came up on
frequency and announced that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas
and was dead.

May he rest in peace.

Big John


I was about 6 years old in 1st grade Catholic School. They anounced it
over the PA and everyone was listening intently until they said the
buses wouild be arriving early for an early dismissal. Then great chears
went up!!! JFK became a marter for first grade children.

John Roncallo

"C J Campbell" wrote:
And why do so many historians regard him as one of the most corrupt
Presidents in history (possibly second only to LBJ)?

Compared to Nixon, either one of those guys is a piker. Who are these
historians, AEI wonks?
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM