JFK

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:15:04 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

Sorry, I don't see any correlation between fidelity, infidelity, and
public
service.

In most courses/seminars about leadership, surveyed people
consistently believe that honesty, integrity, morality are highly
valued characteristics of the best leaders.

But we don't get the best. We get exactly what we deserve.

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In article ,
wrote:

In most courses/seminars about leadership, surveyed people
consistently believe that honesty, integrity, morality are highly
valued characteristics of the best leaders.

But we don't get the best.

true enough

We get exactly what we deserve.

Wrong. While we really have to blame ourselves for electing
liars like Clinton, we don't deserve that kind of leaderhsip.

--
Bob Noel

If you cut off Cuba, why not China?

Who would make our toys?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I've only been reading this group for a few months, so I have to ask -
is
this the first time Pete's been mistaken?


No.

Well, more accurately he thought he was wrong once, but was then proved to
be incorrect.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:38:22 -0600, Big John
wrote:

40 years ago today I was ferrying a F-89J from the Maine Air Guard at
Bangor, ME to the Oregon Air Guard at Portland OR. Chugging along at
20K, keeping under the big jet stream blowing east, I was about 150
out of Oklahoma City, my next refueling stop, when ATC came up on
frequency and announced that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas
and was dead.

May he rest in peace.

Big John

But not the U.S., which now suffers under the Irish curse, or the
Irish wrath, which is a curse, for it is distinctly Irish. And it is
opportunism, (embarrassingly so) as clarified by the next paragraph.
What the U.S. actually lost was the influence of a particular
First Lady, who gave us her rendition of the White House, and whose
ancestors are French (not Irish, doesn't even look it), and who was
not satisfactory to the president in all his ways. But the JFK name
is above so much.
What the U.S. gained was LBJ managing of JFK's Asian commitments.
But I think congress was more committed to Asia than even LBJ, who
seemed a bit indecisive on the matter. (I'm guessing here. We were
committed, and warned against that.) I think he had good reason to be
indecisive.
T'was a sad time, after his death. But that may be a coincidence.

Mike

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
If you cut off Cuba, why not China?

Who would make our toys?

Exactly.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:18:02 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

We get exactly what we deserve.

Wrong. While we really have to blame ourselves for electing
liars like Clinton, we don't deserve that kind of leaderhsip.

Maybe you haven't deserved Clinton. But you sure deserve Shrub.
*hehe*

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Icebound wrote:

Maybe rather than blindly follow any specific "ideology", he tried to do
what was best for the people of his country, regardless of whether it
was perceived as "left", or "right".

Many politicians did that sort of thing before campaign reform laws forced them
to follow the party line if they want to get funding.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

"Big John" wrote:
40 years ago today I was ferrying a F-89J

Hey, Big John, wasn't that the thing with about a jillion rockets in
wingtip pods? Did you ever get to fire them?
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:38:12 -0500, G.R. Patterson III wrote:

Maybe not, but the last time I heard a politico refer to serving the people was
many, many years ago. Of course, lots of them do provide service, in the same
sense that a bull provides it to a cow.

at least it is a good thing for a cow to get srewed. :-)

#m

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