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Old November 15th 03, 11:09 PM
EDR
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In article , Yossarian
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I understand that functional fuel gauges are required equipment for day VFR
flight. Yesterday during my preflight in a 172 I saw that the right gauge
was functioning intermittently--it would show full, flicker down to zero,
bounce around, etc. Tank was visually confirmed full. Mechanic messed
around with it for a while to no effect.


I believe certification only requires that the gauge show empty when
the tank is empty.

Would you fly this airplane?


If you have visually checked the fuel quantity and know approximately
what your fuel burn is, (you do fly by your watch don't you?) you
should be good to go.
I was going to say that my Champ doesn't have a gauge, but then I
remembered there is and I think it is off a Model A Ford. Of course, in
a Cub it is just a wire in a cork sticking up through the cap.
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Old November 15th 03, 11:19 PM
Ron Natalie
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"EDR" wrote in message ...

I believe certification only requires that the gauge show empty when
the tank is empty.


You keep saying this, but it's not true.

Of course, in
a Cub it is just a wire in a cork sticking up through the cap.


Works better than a lot of gauges...


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Old November 16th 03, 04:27 AM
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Ron Natalie wrote:
I believe certification only requires that the gauge show empty when
the tank is empty.


You keep saying this, but it's not true.


Empty... unusable... Not much difference in my book. If there is no fuel
flowing to the engine, it's empty!
Of course, if you know the Chinese fuel management technique, you can
extract some or all of the unusable fuel.
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Old November 16th 03, 04:32 AM
Yossarian
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that isn't the part that isn't true

I didn't expect this thread to spark this much discussion!

"john smith" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie wrote:
I believe certification only requires that the gauge show empty when
the tank is empty.


You keep saying this, but it's not true.


Empty... unusable... Not much difference in my book. If there is no fuel
flowing to the engine, it's empty!
Of course, if you know the Chinese fuel management technique, you can
extract some or all of the unusable fuel.



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Old November 17th 03, 03:17 PM
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"john smith" wrote in message ...
Ron Natalie wrote:
I believe certification only requires that the gauge show empty when
the tank is empty.


You keep saying this, but it's not true.


Empty... unusable... Not much difference in my book. If there is no fuel
flowing to the engine, it's empty!


People pull one cluase out of the reg. I've posted it. If you read the full
sentence people keep pulling out of their asses, you'll find that the gauges
are not any more or less accurate at empty than anywhere else.


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Old November 17th 03, 07:44 PM
Gig Giacona
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"john smith" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie wrote:
I believe certification only requires that the gauge show empty when
the tank is empty.


You keep saying this, but it's not true.


Empty... unusable... Not much difference in my book. If there is no fuel
flowing to the engine, it's empty!
Of course, if you know the Chinese fuel management technique, you can
extract some or all of the unusable fuel.


The regulation reads

(9) Fuel gauge indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank.


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Old November 17th 03, 08:26 PM
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message ...
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Empty... unusable... Not much difference in my book. If there is no fuel
flowing to the engine, it's empty!
Of course, if you know the Chinese fuel management technique, you can
extract some or all of the unusable fuel.


The regulation reads

(9) Fuel gauge indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank.

23.1337 says
Fuel quantity indication. There must be a means to indicate to the flightcrew members the quantity
of usable fuel in each tank during flight. An indicator calibrated in appropriate units and clearly marked
to indicate those units must be used. In addition:
(1) Each fuel quantity indicator must be calibrated to read "zero"
during level flight when the quantity of fuel remaining in the tank is equal to the unusable fuel supply determined under
§ 23.959(a)



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Old November 18th 03, 02:21 PM
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Well .. if that's the standard .. I've never seen one meet it.


"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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The regulation reads

(9) Fuel gauge indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank.





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Old November 18th 03, 03:18 PM
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Roger Tracy wrote:

Well .. if that's the standard .. I've never seen one meet it.


I have two in my Maule. The gauges in my old Cessna 150 were also pretty
accurate.

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Old November 15th 03, 11:26 PM
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EDR wrote:

I believe certification only requires that the gauge show empty when
the tank is empty.


Nope. The gauge must show the quantity of fuel in the tank. Furthermore, it
must read empty when there's no more useable fuel, not when the tank is empty.

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