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Old November 19th 03, 10:54 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:55 -0600, "Jeff Franks"
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...screw the union.


Ah! The true voice of management rears its ugly head. Booo.

I find a policy of an employer "screwing" his employees out of their
just wages so repugnant, that it smacks of despotism. It also forces
other FBOs to perpetrate the same indecent demands on the flight
instructors in their employ to remain competitive. It's a bad
practice, and it takes a dignified professional to stand up and
express his disdain for it. It's a form of blackmail, not unlike the
legal definition of sexual abuse, pure and simple.

Perhaps the time has arrived for flight instructors unite and form a
labor union.


Then we can all go to Mexico, China, India, etc., etc., etc for our flight
training. Long as we are there we could pick out our new cars.




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Old November 20th 03, 12:24 AM
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:54:50 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:55 -0600, "Jeff Franks"
wrote in Message-Id:
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...screw the union.


Ah! The true voice of management rears its ugly head. Booo.

I find a policy of an employer "screwing" his employees out of their
just wages so repugnant, that it smacks of despotism. It also forces
other FBOs to perpetrate the same indecent demands on the flight
instructors in their employ to remain competitive. It's a bad
practice, and it takes a dignified professional to stand up and
express his disdain for it. It's a form of blackmail, not unlike the
legal definition of sexual abuse, pure and simple.

Perhaps the time has arrived for flight instructors unite and form a
labor union.


Then we can all go to Mexico, China, India, etc., etc., etc for our flight
training.


Why would we do that?


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Old November 20th 03, 04:56 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:54:50 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote in Message-Id:
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:55 -0600, "Jeff Franks"
wrote in Message-Id:
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...screw the union.

Ah! The true voice of management rears its ugly head. Booo.

I find a policy of an employer "screwing" his employees out of their
just wages so repugnant, that it smacks of despotism. It also forces
other FBOs to perpetrate the same indecent demands on the flight
instructors in their employ to remain competitive. It's a bad
practice, and it takes a dignified professional to stand up and
express his disdain for it. It's a form of blackmail, not unlike the
legal definition of sexual abuse, pure and simple.

Perhaps the time has arrived for flight instructors unite and form a
labor union.


Then we can all go to Mexico, China, India, etc., etc., etc for our

flight
training.


Why would we do that?


How many millions of jobs have been moved out of the country because of
unions?




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Old November 20th 03, 08:27 AM
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:54:50 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote in Message-Id:
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:55 -0600, "Jeff Franks"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

...screw the union.

Ah! The true voice of management rears its ugly head. Booo.

I find a policy of an employer "screwing" his employees out of their
just wages so repugnant, that it smacks of despotism. It also forces
other FBOs to perpetrate the same indecent demands on the flight
instructors in their employ to remain competitive. It's a bad
practice, and it takes a dignified professional to stand up and
express his disdain for it. It's a form of blackmail, not unlike the
legal definition of sexual abuse, pure and simple.

Perhaps the time has arrived for flight instructors unite and form a
labor union.

Then we can all go to Mexico, China, India, etc., etc., etc for our

flight
training.


Why would we do that?


How many millions of jobs have been moved out of the country because of
unions?

And how many have moved because foreign workers are more literate and better
versed in English (reading & writing) than their American counterparts?

There's a lot of factors in the present "brain drain":

* Labor costs (particularly for the unskilled and those with marginal
skills) and labor laws (some okay, most political game playing)
* The alphabet soup of Federal and state agencies
* Tax Rates, and more importantly, TAX POLICY.
* Environmental regs
* Marginally literate workers
* Poor work habits/ethic
And on and on...

Americans, for the past few generations, have voted for a pristine,
risk-free, comfortable world, with no worries, no hassles, everything
guaranteed...cradle-to-grave.

What they are getting is exactly what they DEMANDED, it's just not what they
expected.




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Old November 20th 03, 08:38 AM
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"Tom S." wrote in message
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...screw the union.

Ah! The true voice of management rears its ugly head. Booo.

I find a policy of an employer "screwing" his employees out of

their
just wages so repugnant, that it smacks of despotism. It also

forces
other FBOs to perpetrate the same indecent demands on the flight
instructors in their employ to remain competitive. It's a bad
practice, and it takes a dignified professional to stand up and
express his disdain for it. It's a form of blackmail, not unlike

the
legal definition of sexual abuse, pure and simple.

Perhaps the time has arrived for flight instructors unite and form

a
labor union.

Then we can all go to Mexico, China, India, etc., etc., etc for our

flight
training.

Why would we do that?


How many millions of jobs have been moved out of the country because of
unions?

And how many have moved because foreign workers are more literate and

better
versed in English (reading & writing) than their American counterparts?

There's a lot of factors in the present "brain drain":

* Labor costs (particularly for the unskilled and those with marginal
skills) and labor laws (some okay, most political game playing)
* The alphabet soup of Federal and state agencies
* Tax Rates, and more importantly, TAX POLICY.
* Environmental regs
* Marginally literate workers
* Poor work habits/ethic
And on and on...

Americans, for the past few generations, have voted for a pristine,
risk-free, comfortable world, with no worries, no hassles, everything
guaranteed...cradle-to-grave.

What they are getting is exactly what they DEMANDED, it's just not what

they
expected.

Oh, I almost forgot!!

Our idiotic tort system (so how is John Edwards doing in his presidential
bid?).


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Old November 23rd 03, 02:53 AM
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:56:06 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:54:50 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote in Message-Id:
:


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:55 -0600, "Jeff Franks"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

...screw the union.

Ah! The true voice of management rears its ugly head. Booo.

I find a policy of an employer "screwing" his employees out of their
just wages so repugnant, that it smacks of despotism. It also forces
other FBOs to perpetrate the same indecent demands on the flight
instructors in their employ to remain competitive. It's a bad
practice, and it takes a dignified professional to stand up and
express his disdain for it. It's a form of blackmail, not unlike the
legal definition of sexual abuse, pure and simple.

Perhaps the time has arrived for flight instructors unite and form a
labor union.

Then we can all go to Mexico, China, India, etc., etc., etc for our

flight
training.


Why would we do that?


How many millions of jobs have been moved out of the country because of
unions?


How many jobs have been moved out of the US by greedy big business?

How would you like to work under the conditions that those who fill
those jobs do?
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Old November 23rd 03, 05:13 AM
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:56:06 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote in Message-Id:
:


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:54:50 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote in Message-Id:
:


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:49:55 -0600, "Jeff Franks"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

...screw the union.

Ah! The true voice of management rears its ugly head. Booo.

I find a policy of an employer "screwing" his employees out of their
just wages so repugnant, that it smacks of despotism. It also

forces
other FBOs to perpetrate the same indecent demands on the flight
instructors in their employ to remain competitive. It's a bad
practice, and it takes a dignified professional to stand up and
express his disdain for it. It's a form of blackmail, not unlike

the
legal definition of sexual abuse, pure and simple.

Perhaps the time has arrived for flight instructors unite and form a
labor union.

Then we can all go to Mexico, China, India, etc., etc., etc for our

flight
training.

Why would we do that?


How many millions of jobs have been moved out of the country because of
unions?


How many jobs have been moved out of the US by greedy big business?


Not nearly as many as have been forced out of the country by greedy unions.

How would you like to work under the conditions that those who fill
those jobs do?


In many cases those conditions are as good if not better then the conditions
here. Don't believe the exceptions blasted all over the news are the norm.




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Old November 23rd 03, 10:06 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:13:20 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
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How many jobs have been moved out of the US by greedy big business?


Not nearly as many as have been forced out of the country by greedy unions.

How would you like to work under the conditions that those who fill
those jobs do?


In many cases those conditions are as good if not better then the conditions
here. Don't believe the exceptions blasted all over the news are the norm.


We disagree.
 




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