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Old November 23rd 03, 02:56 PM
Dan Luke
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote:
As I said, "God" is just another, im my opinion sheepish, way to say
"I don't know".


This is the basis of much of the pseudo-science religionists are
currently attempting to force into public school curricula. It is known
as the "God of the gaps." IOW, if I don't understand it, God did it.
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Dan
C172RG at BFM


  #302  
Old November 23rd 03, 03:31 PM
Wdtabor
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In article , "Dan Luke"
writes:


Close, but no cigar. The LP's blind faith in laissez-faire capitalism
betrays a failure to understand that *any* unrestrained power threatens
liberty. It matters not whether that power is in the hands of
government, religion, labor unions or business.
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Who in the LP ever advocated unrestrained power?

The central tenet of Libertarian policy is that we do not INITIATE the use of
force. Most abuses masquerading as laissz-faire capitalism are actually unholy
alliances of government and some individual or corporation. Aircraft
certification is a good example of a group of corporations using the force of
government to bar competition.

How much less expensive would GA aircraft be if the government played no part
in certification? Let anyone build an airplane and put it on the market. Let
the AOPA, or a consortium of aircraft insurers, do the rating and let the
individual purchaser assume the risks if he chooses the unrated airplane.

Freedom and competition go together.

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Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
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Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG
  #303  
Old November 23rd 03, 03:48 PM
Larry Fransson
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On 2003-11-23 06:43:03 -0800, "Jay Honeck" said

Although your beliefs are commonly accepted by many, I don't think they mee
the standard of "Truth"


Is the truth any less true just because someone chooses not to believe it

  #304  
Old November 23rd 03, 03:56 PM
Peter
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Unless you don't believe that the speed of light is a constant in vacuo.


What's there not to believe? Anyone using GPS cannot deny Einstein - it
wouldn't work without relativity.

Relativity has certainly been well-tested and (as you say) widely used.
However, there is serious discussion taking place concerning the
possibility of a variable speed of light as an alternative to inflation
during the early phases of the big bang.
See
http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1475-7516/2003/07/004 and
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0209014

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Old November 23rd 03, 04:15 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:25:11 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

God plays a "significant role" in this
country, without harm. If this is what you mean by "significant", I'm all
for it.


Just check what is printed on your money.

hmm. If government says that they trust in God ('In God we trust'), they
also must believe in Santa Claus.

#m
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Old November 23rd 03, 04:25 PM
Jay Honeck
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Although your beliefs are commonly accepted by many, I don't think they
meet
the standard of "Truth".


Is the truth any less true just because someone chooses not to believe it?


Nope.

But that's not what we're discussing here.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


  #307  
Old November 23rd 03, 04:44 PM
mike regish
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Boy, now there's an argument that proves conclusively there must be a god.

mike regish

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:25:11 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

God plays a "significant role" in this
country, without harm. If this is what you mean by "significant", I'm

all
for it.


Just check what is printed on your money.

hmm. If government says that they trust in God ('In God we trust'), they
also must believe in Santa Claus.

#m
--
http://www.declareyourself.com/fyr_candidates.php
http://www.subterrane.com/bush.shtml



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Old November 23rd 03, 04:47 PM
Dan Luke
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"Wdtabor" wrote:
Who in the LP ever advocated unrestrained power?


I don't believe I accused the LP of that. I accused the LP of blind
faith in l-f capitalism and the inability to see that it leads to
economic entities with unrestrained power.

Most abuses masquerading as laissz-faire capitalism
are actually unholy alliances of government and some individual or
corporation. Aircraft certification is a good example of a group of
corporations using the force of government to bar competition.


That is true but beside the point. Unrestrained corporations using the
force of
economic power can bar competition, as well.

How much less expensive would GA aircraft be if the government
played no part in certification? Let anyone build an airplane and put
it on the market. Let the AOPA, or a consortium of aircraft insurers,
do the rating and let the individual purchaser assume the risks if he
chooses the unrated airplane.


You're preaching to the choir.

Freedom and competition go together.


Absolutely. But true, l-f capitalism must inevitably produce economic
colossi that can suppress competition and freedom.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


  #309  
Old November 23rd 03, 05:01 PM
EDR
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In article k.net,
John wrote:

Some simple truths:


Facts are immutable.
Truth is what you believe it to be.
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Old November 23rd 03, 05:13 PM
John Harlow
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I suspect there are few pilots who are not libertarians at heart. The two
mindsets mesh far too well for me to be the only one here.


Count me in as well.


 




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