Big Kahunas

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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and many historians will try to tell you that the US forced
Japan into WWII.

break the code. :-(

How?

By shutting down their access to oil and other resources.


It really does make one question the accepted versions of history, doesn't
it? I mean, if historians can get things SO wrong, so quickly -- what
chance for accuracy do we have when referring to things that happened a
century ago? Or in the last millennium?

It makes a difference when a historian has an agenda (the "status quo" for
example, or trying to play "revisionist"), as opposed to objectivity. It's
like other fields of endeavor where the participants pick and choose facts
that support their conclusions, but ignore vast quantities of facts and data
that nullifies their position.


They always say that history is written by the victors, thus warping
reality -- but there seems to be far more to it than that.

Even the losers sometime re-write history. See, for example, what Japanese
children are being taught about WW2, or what children in the former Soviet
block were taught about loads of history. Hell, see what OUR kids are being
taught.

break the code. :-(

How?

By shutting down their access to oil and other resources.

???

What does that mean? Who is "their"?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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break the code. :-(

How?

By shutting down their access to oil and other resources.

???

What does that mean? Who is "their"?
Japan's. During the 30's, the Dutch East Indies (IIRC) was the main source
of oil and other resources (Japan had about as many local resources as they
do now.) They were essentially "shut out".

break the code. :-(

How?

By shutting down their access to oil and other resources.

???

What does that mean? Who is "their"?
Japan's. During the 30's, the Dutch East Indies (IIRC) was the main source
of oil and other resources (Japan had about as many local resources as
they
do now.) They were essentially "shut out".

Ah, you mean the Japanese diplomatic code. There were good retaliatory
reasons we cut off their oil and other resources, but that's neither here
nor there.

I thought maybe you were talking up some secret "revisionist historian
code", or something! :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article yzPyb.384086$Tr4.1121415@attbi_s03, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Ah, you mean the Japanese diplomatic code. There were good retaliatory
reasons we cut off their oil and other resources, but that's neither here
nor there.

I thought maybe you were talking up some secret "revisionist historian
code", or something! :-)

sorry man, the obscure subtle invisible point was that you can
probably find historians taking even the most idiotic side of any issue.

--
Bob Noel

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:yzPyb.384086$Tr4.1121415@attbi_s03...
break the code. :-(

How?

By shutting down their access to oil and other resources.

???

What does that mean? Who is "their"?
Japan's. During the 30's, the Dutch East Indies (IIRC) was the main
source
of oil and other resources (Japan had about as many local resources as
they
do now.) They were essentially "shut out".

Ah, you mean the Japanese diplomatic code. There were good retaliatory
reasons we cut off their oil and other resources, but that's neither here
nor there.

It's exactly HERE.

I thought maybe you were talking up some secret "revisionist historian
code", or something! :-)

No, it's part of history, even if ignored my many in the mainstream.

A history text can only cover so much; what's important is that crucial
issues be covered, not whitewashed.

A good example from last week was the 40th Anniversary of JFK's
assassination. What's conveniently left out is that JFK's approval numbers
were below 30% and it was likely he was going to be a one-termer. Legend has
it that it was the reason LBJ "intervened"; he did not want to go down in
flames, never to run again.