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  #41  
Old December 1st 03, 09:03 PM
Koopas Ly
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I find it interesting that you have frequented usenet for two years
and still failed to learn that it contains no bulletin BOARDS. The
discussion groups are formally referred to as 'newsgroups:'
http://bianca.ctrl-c.liu.se/~ingvar/.../b.html#bboard
http://bianca.ctrl-c.liu.se/~ingvar/...html#newsgroup


Hi Larry,

Thanks for pointing the nuance. Like I said, I learn a great deal
here. You were trying to help me, right?

Happy Holidays,
Alex
  #42  
Old December 1st 03, 09:04 PM
H.J.
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Bottom line: This is a forum for highly literate people -- which is
extraordinarily rare.


....or Cub Scouts posing as big boys.


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Old December 1st 03, 09:08 PM
H.J.
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I find it interesting that you have frequented usenet for two years
and still failed to learn that it contains no bulletin BOARDS. The
discussion groups are formally referred to as 'newsgroups:'


Ah yes, exactly the kind of flaming that drives people off.


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Old December 1st 03, 09:11 PM
H.J.
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It's okay to call them anything you choose; it just displays your
ignorance publicly. One would think an airman would strive to use the
correct terms given the fact that aviation is rife with such
specifics.


Careful, There's a blurry line between Accuracy and TightAss-ism.


  #46  
Old December 1st 03, 09:23 PM
John Galban
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"James Blakely" wrote in message ...


Do these people decide to get out of aviation? I know that nobody here
knows for sure (unless you know the person some other way) so I guess this
is more of a general wondering than anything else. (I would be really
shocked if someone posted what happened to everyone how ever posted here but
then stopped.)


Oddly enough, my experience was the opposite. When I'm spending 10
hrs. a day in front of a computer, it's easy to keep the newsgroups in
the background and participate during my "hurry up and wait" periods.
A few yrs. back, I decided to take a few years off from work and
spend the majority of my time committing aviation. During that time I
hardly ever read or posted to the newsgroups (but I did attend the
r.a* fly-in). I was much too busy flying.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
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Old December 1st 03, 11:42 PM
Montblack
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("H.J." wrote)
Bottom line: This is a forum for highly literate people -- which is
extraordinarily rare.


...or Cub Scouts posing as big boys.



....or dogs posing as Cub Scouts.

--
Montblack
http://lumma.de/mt/archives/bart.gif





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Old December 2nd 03, 12:32 AM
Matthew P. Cummings
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:01 +0000, Rob Perkins wrote:

YES. No use being pedantic. The Usenet model comes from the BBS model.

Rob, who has been doing BBS and Usenet for 15 years now


No it didn't come from the BBS model. What you must understand is the
UUCP protocol and how it was implemented to transport the files,
completely different from the first BBS. UUCP was being used to send
files back and forth and students decided to do something useful with
them, thus Usenet eventually was birthed. Some pertinent history of both
follows with the nod that a BBS was first and Usenet second, but Usenet
was based on something entirely different. I know, I run a Usenet system
back in the early 80's using UUCP to transfer the newsgroups. As a
side note, I've noticed spammers using the Fidonet gateway addresses I also
setup for the BBS systems to use Usenet newsgroups. I basically converted
newsgroups to a BBS format, and back again on the fly. Did that for years
until ISP's started being formed after the Internet was commercialized,
worst thing that ever happened if you ask me. PS, the first Usenet
newsgroups were tedious to read and respond to postings, but it got better.

Usenet came into being in late 1979, shortly after the release of V7
Unix with UUCP. Two Duke University grad students in North Carolina,
Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis, thought of hooking computers together to
exchange information with the Unix community. Steve Bellovin, a grad
student at the University of North Carolina, put together the first
version of the news software using shell scripts and installed it on
the first two sites: "unc" and "duke."

The history of the computer based Bulletin Board System can be traced
back to Chicago, IL in 1978 to Ward Christensen, who wrote the first
BBS system software.

  #49  
Old December 2nd 03, 12:40 AM
Andrew Sarangan
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It is for the same reason that I stopped posting for a long time. Some
posters get emotional, arrogant and even abusive when they encouter an
opinion different from theirs. Over the past 8 years or so, I have
seen many long-time contributors driven away by people who were
unappreciative of the free advice they were getting here.



"Harry Gordon" wrote in message ...
I would dare say that there are as many reasons for dropping out of a
newsgroup as there are people who do so. I certainly can't speak for them,
but as for myself...when I was an early student, I would make routine
postings about my flying progress and generally got really great feedback.
However, one day, I posted something, don't remember if it was a question or
made a statement or whatever, but someone replied and raked me over the
coals. Well, I said to myself, if that is what I am to expect, I would
rather spend my time in the books. It took a long time for me to work up the
ability to start posting again. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, it
wasn't until I finally passed my checkride that I began posting again with
regularity; and even now, do so with great caution. But that is why I
dropped out for so long. For other newsgroups that I dropped out of was
because the subjects no longer applied to me for whatever reason.

Harry
PP-ASEL

  #50  
Old December 2nd 03, 12:55 AM
Andrew Sarangan
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While the signal to noise ratio in these newsgroups is indeed quite
low, if you know how to filter through the posts quickly, it can be a
highly valuable experience. For example, where else would you find an
indepth discussion on "logging vs acting PIC"? Does a CFI need a
second class medical for giving instruction? Can you log PIC time in
IMC if you are not IFR rated? Is it Bernoulli's theory or Newton's
theory that explains flight? What makes an airplane turn - horizontal
component of lift or weathervaning? I can go on and on... If you ask
the average pilot, they will most likely give you the wrong answer to
these questions. Why, even the FSDO has given me wrong answers. I
doubt anyone who reads this NG would not know the correct answers.




Larry Fransson wrote in message news:2003112920100843658%lfransson@comcastnet...
On 2003-11-29 14:24:11 -0800, "James Blakely" said:

For example, a year or so ago, someone by the name of Tracey was asking
about questions about the medical. It seemed that she was on some sort of
medication that may have been a problem. She posted for a good 3 or 6
months and then nothing.


She quit flying for a couple of reasons. Last she posted here, she was thinking
about starting again. Nothing since, though.

Speaking for myself, I quit reading and posting to newsgroups a couple of months
ago. It just took too much time out of my day with no real benefit that I could find.
That, and I kept getting drawn into OT threads, and I hate when that happens.
Again, too much time, no real benefit.

I only recently started reading and posting again because I'm beta testing a
newsreader. Once the beta testing is done, I'll disappear again.

 




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