Big Kahunas

Big John writes:

David

Got in this thread and hard to back out.

Happens that way sometimes.

On 30 Nov 2003 12:45:04 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

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Clinton avoided the draft honestly,

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He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.
--
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In article , David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

No, he twisted the question so as to avoid answering the clear
intent of the original question. Which is what a dishonest person
with two braincells to rub together would do when they wanted to avoid
telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

--
Bob Noel

....that's none of anybody's business anyway.

mike regish

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
news:ihatessppaamm-
No, he twisted the question so as to avoid answering the clear
intent of the original question. Which is what a dishonest person
with two braincells to rub together would do when they wanted to avoid
telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

--
Bob Noel

Bob Noel writes:

In article , David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

No, he twisted the question so as to avoid answering the clear
intent of the original question. Which is what a dishonest person
with two braincells to rub together would do when they wanted to avoid
telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Which is what a trained lawyer *should* be doing in that situation.
If the questioner wasn't satisfied with the answer, he can try again.
If he *is* satisfied, then that's his decision.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
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"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
...


[Nice example of post-modernism follows]

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked.

Care to quote the exchange?

Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Just they type we want with all that power.


Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

Oh, they found plenty to charge him and her with. Martha Stewart is looking
at ten years in jail for MUCH LESS than Hillary got with her cattle futures
alone.


All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.

David, you integrity is absolutely pathetic.

David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".
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Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)

Comments.

I thought I was being nice by not bringing up the under the table pay
off to pardon the guy who stole millions from poor old folks and
skipped to Switzerland.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc

Goes on and on and on.

Best President we ever had (.

Makes Nixon look like 'poster boy' of Presidents.

Big John


On 02 Dec 2003 01:38:48 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Big John writes:

David

Got in this thread and hard to back out.

Happens that way sometimes.

On 30 Nov 2003 12:45:04 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

----clip----

Clinton avoided the draft honestly,

----clip----

He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.

And that compares to the war in Iraq how?

mike regish

"Big John" wrote in message
...
David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".

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Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)

Comments.

I thought I was being nice by not bringing up the under the table pay
off to pardon the guy who stole millions from poor old folks and
skipped to Switzerland.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc

Goes on and on and on.

Best President we ever had (.

Makes Nixon look like 'poster boy' of Presidents.

Big John


On 02 Dec 2003 01:38:48 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Big John writes:

David

Got in this thread and hard to back out.

Happens that way sometimes.

On 30 Nov 2003 12:45:04 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

----clip----

Clinton avoided the draft honestly,

----clip----

He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:00:44 -0600 Big John wrote:

David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ```````````````````````````````
Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

The man blew it there but over a personal problem. The republicans had
some issues in their own ranks. The guy leading the charge bowed out
suddenly when it was discovered he fooled around and he was so proud and
righteous before that was pointed out.



Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

This sounds bogus to me, can you back that up? Sounds like smear.
Cheap smear at that.


Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)


A personal problem that the Republicans helped create and certainly doesn't
come into play in performing his duties. Do you also berate co-workers that
have had extra-marital affairs? I'll bet you don't since you seemm to have
some decency.


Comments.

I thought I was being nice by not bringing up the under the table pay
off to pardon the guy who stole millions from poor old folks and
skipped to Switzerland.

Vague references to pardons? To be fair you should know that presidential
pardons have a history of being ripe smelling to even the most hardened nose.


Etc.

Etc.

Etc

Goes on and on and on.

Best President we ever had (.

Makes Nixon look like 'poster boy' of Presidents.


More great usenet humor, remember that the Chinese really liked Nixon.
Do you remember why? Nixon liked how they dealt with their affairs.
Nixon and the chinese were birds of a feather.
BTW, Nixon resigned right.

To take someone's personal problems and turn that into "he's a
bad president he is human" is a weak argument.

Anyway it's all moot, Clinton's no longer president.


R. Hubbell


Big John


On 02 Dec 2003 01:38:48 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Big John writes:

David

Got in this thread and hard to back out.

Happens that way sometimes.

On 30 Nov 2003 12:45:04 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

----clip----

Clinton avoided the draft honestly,

----clip----

He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.

Big John writes:

David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ```````````````````````````````
Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

More than any other president has done. He seems to actually value
integrity.

Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

Widely debunked.

Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)

Big deal. I take for granted that anybody at that level has "cheated"
on their spouse; power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. The cases we
actually *hear* about are a tiny portion of the cases that occur, and
are randomly selected.

Besides, we have no idea what his actual deal with his wife was; so
far as I'm concerned she's the only one with standing to complain of
his behavior.

Comments.

There are a few.

I notice you've had nothing to say about the fraud Halliburton and
Dick Cheney have been profiting from, and the long string of lies out
of the White House to get us into this war, and the deliberate
"outing" of an undercover CIA operative to punish her husband for
writing a report critical of the administration's position (the
"yellowcake" scandal). Or his brother's illegally purging black
voters from the rolls in Florida to get Bush elected in the first
place. Frankly the crimes of this administration take us back to
19th-century levels, or perhaps to third-world hellhole levels.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: noguns-nomoney.com www.dd-b.net/carry/
Photos: dd-b.lighthunters.net Snapshots: www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: dragaera.info/

David

David. Once more. I just don't suffer fools and sleep soundly.

You Texas 'Two Step' around the original post and now instead of
acknowledging the short combings of the last Democratic
administration, you blow hot air and try to overwhelm all with Crap.

Take your last shot. You've got GW for five more years so drop your
pants, bend over and joy it.

Big John

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On 03 Dec 2003 22:59:11 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Big John writes:

David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ```````````````````````````````
Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

More than any other president has done. He seems to actually value
integrity.

Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

Widely debunked.

Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)

Big deal. I take for granted that anybody at that level has "cheated"
on their spouse; power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. The cases we
actually *hear* about are a tiny portion of the cases that occur, and
are randomly selected.

Besides, we have no idea what his actual deal with his wife was; so
far as I'm concerned she's the only one with standing to complain of
his behavior.

Comments.

There are a few.

I notice you've had nothing to say about the fraud Halliburton and
Dick Cheney have been profiting from, and the long string of lies out
of the White House to get us into this war, and the deliberate
"outing" of an undercover CIA operative to punish her husband for
writing a report critical of the administration's position (the
"yellowcake" scandal). Or his brother's illegally purging black
voters from the rolls in Florida to get Bush elected in the first
place. Frankly the crimes of this administration take us back to
19th-century levels, or perhaps to third-world hellhole levels.