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Old December 2nd 03, 05:54 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Guy Elden Jr. wrote:

I spoke with someone at the Airshares office at Caldwell, NJ, and got a
good overview of the price structure for the SR-20. They don't actually
have one available there yet, as there isn't enough interest at the
moment. But I don't qualify for the SR-22 yet... I have about 195 total
hours, and their insurance requires 350 + active pursuit of an instrument
rating (which, incidentally, I earned a few months ago). So I'm really
only lacking the flight hours, and the SR-20 sounds like a great way to
move up without stepping up too much in too short a time.


I thought about Airshares for a while. I still have it in the back of my
brain. But, at least for now, I decided to go the "club route" instead.
I'm in a club which includes a 182 and a 182RG, as well as a couple of
172s.

The down side, as compared to the Cirrus, is that none of these are a
Cirrus. That is one hell of a nice airplane. I even deliberately avoided
the open house Airshare had at CDW a little while ago, knowing what would
occur if I went.

But, just to be mean to myself, what are they planning to charge for their
-20s?

- Andrew

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Old December 3rd 03, 12:06 AM
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("Andrew Gideon" wrote)
But, just to be mean to myself, what are they planning to charge for their
-20s?



Price g

[2002]
In April, at Sun 'n Fun in Lakeland, Florida, Cirrus announced:
The new SR20 ver 2.0, an all-electric aircraft, will be available in 2003

http://www.cirrusdesign.com/aboutus/timeline/index.html
[2002] Sun 'n Fun announcement link (above)

Have the 20s gone all electric yet? Is it an option? Is it still to come?

I haven't kept up ...

Where are they at with diesel plans? HP? 20-D? 22-D?

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Old December 3rd 03, 12:00 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Montblack,

Have the 20s gone all electric yet? Is it an option? Is it still to come?


They are all electric now. Avidyne Entegra PFD is an option.


Where are they at with diesel plans? HP? 20-D? 22-D?


sma insists that Cirrus is going with their absurdly overpriced 230 HP
engine. I have doubts. The Thielert 300-hp is still at least two years from
certification, I guess. A Diesel Cirrus might use the longer wings of the
22, even with lower HP than the 22 now has. Everybody seems to agree that
it will be named the -21.

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Old December 3rd 03, 06:00 PM
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("Thomas Borchert" wrote)
Where are they at with diesel plans? HP? 20-D? 22-D?


sma insists that Cirrus is going with their absurdly overpriced 230 HP
engine. I have doubts. The Thielert 300-hp is still at least two years

from
certification, I guess. A Diesel Cirrus might use the longer wings of the
22, even with lower HP than the 22 now has. Everybody seems to agree that
it will be named the -21.



Original post asked: what are they planning to charge for their -20s?

Looking back, I thought it said: What are they planning to *change* for
their -20s?

My answer was Price.

Doh!

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Old December 3rd 03, 11:51 PM
Guy Elden Jr.
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But, just to be mean to myself, what are they planning to charge for their
-20s?


I assume you mean Airshares, in which case here are the details (if/when
they actually get an SR-20 on the line at CDW) :

$5000 - "license" fee (one-time payment - not sure exactly how it works, but
I think it's creditable for future "license" payments if you continue to
renew / upgrade)
$780 / month + $80 / hr for 75 hours of time per year... or
$975 / month + $80 / hr for 100 hours per year.

That is of course all-inclusive... you don't pay for gas, oil, maintenance,
hangar, etc. And the person I spoke to there said (IIRC) that the contract
you sign (1 year) has an exit clause if you want to bail out... 90 days
notice.

I think I'd personally be much happier in a private share with up to 5 other
pilots on an SR-22, but that's doubtful to happen.

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Guy Elden Jr.



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Old December 4th 03, 03:30 AM
Andrew Gideon
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Guy Elden Jr. wrote:

I think I'd personally be much happier in a private share with up to 5
other pilots on an SR-22, but that's doubtful to happen.


Why not? If Airshares finds enough business at CDW, there are obviously
people interested in the product.

FWIW, one of the interesting things about the club I've joined is the number
of people that "graduate" into ownership. As I understand it, many do so
in groups.

- Andrew

 




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