Presidential TFR @ Kill Devil Hills

It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

What did you fly when you were in the military?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:04:36 -0500 Cub Driver wrote:


It does however tell me that there's no way he was ever a pilot. Because a
pilot would never do that to fellow pilots. So what in hell was he doing in
the National Guard? Don't answer that I really don't want to know.

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact most
consider that to be the defining metric. So why don't we hear more bragging
about that from Dubya? Is he too humble? *hahaha*


What did you fly when you were in the military?

The point is that I didn't purport to be a military pilot while avoiding
duty.


R. Hubbell


all the best -- Dan Ford
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and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.

--
Bob Noel

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:28 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.


Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.


R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

Hubbel

Single pilot fighters (Duce), you log PIC on all flights unless you
got god as your co-pilot like Scott of Flying Tigers book fame.

Big John

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:09:55 -0800, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:28 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.


Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.


R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:30:46 -0600 Big John wrote:

Hubbel

Single pilot fighters (Duce), you log PIC on all flights unless you
got god as your co-pilot like Scott of Flying Tigers book fame.


So was Dubya's time in a TF-102A or F-102?


R. Hubbell


Big John

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:09:55 -0800, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:28 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.


Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.


R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

In article yyRDb.23619$pY.15803@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in
fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.

Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.

Well, in my limited experience (I'm not former military, and
I only worked with USAF folks, including numerous current and former
USAF pilots), I've never ever heard one discuss their hours.
I've heard about guys talk about birdstrikes, missions (peacetime
and war), aircraft characteristics, but not the number of hours.

Come to think of it, the only pilots I know of that talk about
hours like they mean anything are student pilots and recently
minted private pilots. Of course, everyone talks about the
crusty old 20,000+ pilots.

--
Bob Noel

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:09:32 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article yyRDb.23619$pY.15803@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in
fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.

Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.

Well, in my limited experience (I'm not former military, and
I only worked with USAF folks, including numerous current and former
USAF pilots), I've never ever heard one discuss their hours.
I've heard about guys talk about birdstrikes, missions (peacetime
and war), aircraft characteristics, but not the number of hours.

Come to think of it, the only pilots I know of that talk about
hours like they mean anything are student pilots and recently
minted private pilots. Of course, everyone talks about the
crusty old 20,000+ pilots.


So how many hours does Dubya have as PIC?
That's what we're talking about.

R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
news:nB0Eb.27949$pY.9219@fed1read04...

So how many hours does Dubya have as PIC?
That's what we're talking about.


You appear to be the only one interested in that information.

In article nB0Eb.27949$pY.9219@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

Come to think of it, the only pilots I know of that talk about
hours like they mean anything are student pilots and recently
minted private pilots. Of course, everyone talks about the
crusty old 20,000+ pilots.

So how many hours does Dubya have as PIC?
That's what we're talking about.

so, which are you, a student pilot or a newly minted private
pilot?

--
Bob Noel