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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message ...
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Gig Giacona wrote:

And with the advances in science I wouldn't bet the farm that
there
will
never be another marketable Cuban mahogany tree IF there is
sufficient
demand.



Yes, this is an argument that is often made, the market will save us
all
with advances in technology and science and efficiency. The market
serves
itself, what is good for the market is not necessarily good for the
public.
Their interests may intersect but don't bet the farm on it.

- Carl -




How about an example..




ENRON


ENRON could have not have happened in a truly free market. It is an example
of what happens as a market is freed after a long period of artificial
control. Another example is the Russian Mafia.

Deregulation simply gave ENRON the opportunity to game the system. It
all boils down to whether people want to play fair or not. Yes, in
the end the market punished them by dropping their stock price to zero
but only after the government opened investigations. People will
cheat if they believe they can get away with it. The "free market"
does not prevent this.

I believe a truly free market is unattainable - it's a utopian ideal.
Human nature will not allow it.


- Carl -

"Carl Ellis" wrote in message
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message ENRON


ENRON could have not have happened in a truly free market. It is an
example
of what happens as a market is freed after a long period of artificial
control. Another example is the Russian Mafia.

Deregulation simply gave ENRON the opportunity to game the system. It
all boils down to whether people want to play fair or not. Yes, in
the end the market punished them by dropping their stock price to zero
but only after the government opened investigations. People will
cheat if they believe they can get away with it. The "free market"
does not prevent this.

I believe a truly free market is unattainable - it's a utopian ideal.
Human nature will not allow it.



You are giving too much credit to the government. ENRON's house of cards
would have failed and was in the process of doing so before the
investigation.

I'm not saying there should be know laws. Fraud, theft should be controlled
and punished by the government.

Let's just call it quits and talk about airplanes.

What kind do you have, Carl?

Let's just call it quits and talk about airplanes.

What kind do you have, Carl?



Good idea 8-).

1977 F-19 Taylorcraft. It has an O-200 and 1500 lbs gross. It's a real
performer.

- Carl -


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Good idea 8-).

1977 F-19 Taylorcraft. It has an O-200 and 1500 lbs gross. It's a real
performer.

- Carl -

And you Gig?


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Good idea 8-).

1977 F-19 Taylorcraft. It has an O-200 and 1500 lbs gross. It's a real
performer.

- Carl -

And you Gig?



Building a Zenith 601XL.. You can see up to the minute photos of the under
taking at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

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Building a Zenith 601XL.. You can see up to the minute photos of the under
taking at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR



That's a nice little airplane. I imagine you've had a chance to fly one?
What are your impressions?

- Carl -


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Building a Zenith 601XL.. You can see up to the minute photos of the
under
taking at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR



That's a nice little airplane. I imagine you've had a chance to fly one?
What are your impressions?

- Carl -


I went through the new builder's workshop and test flew the plane in
September on 2002. When went up to the factory in Mexico MO I had never
seen one in person. I had already paid my $300 for the rudder kit and had 2
things I had to know before I left or else I wouldn't continue the project.

1. How did the plane fly? I didn't want an ultralight I wanted a small plane
that I could comfortably do x-country in and maybe even very light IFR.

Within 1 minute of take-off I was pretty sure the 601XL would fill the bill
on that. After 30 minutes I was sure.

2. Could I build the thing pretty much alone with my very limited skill set?

I felt obviously felt that I could. I've made a couple of mistakes along the
way but nothing a couple of hundred dollars of new parts wouldn't fix.

I also looked into the Sonex. For what I wanted the panel area looked a
little small and it's design was a kind of radical for my taste and it was a
much less proven design, especially at the time.

The RVs are great but I didn't feel like I could do enough of the work
without an extra set of hands.


Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR