Enola Gay Damaged at Air & Space Museum Opening

"plumb bob" wrote in message
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"John T" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message


(3,000 people, huh? You're more than a little bit off. nOr are you
saying that only 3,000 of the Hiroshima dead were innocent? See
www.warbirdforum.com/hirodead.htm )

No, he's linking the WTC atrocity (~3,000 dead) with Hiroshima.

Personally, I think you guys are just feeding a troll.

You win the prize... I am trolling. For those with a keen eye it should
have
been obvious. BTW, I think the bombing of Hiroshima was absolutely
necessary
to end the war, even though innocent civilians were killed.


There ARE NOT INNOCENT CIVILIANS in a nation that started an agressive war.
The blood of those that were NOT RESPONSIBLE for the war is on the hands of
those who WERE RESPONSIBLE.

Not to mention
the carpet bombing of civilian cities in Europe (Dresden was pretty bad)
to
weaken the resolve of the bad guys.

And knock out a bunch of German manufacturing that Germany put there BECAUSE
they figured the Allies would not bomb Dresden.

For the rest of you, get off your moral high horses. War is a dirty
business. Think about that for a change. Think about the millions of
soldiers who fought and won that war, and then go visit D.C. to find their
memorials. It is very disappointing that that generation is not properly
honored and remembered in my opinion. And you want to get upset that
someone
dented the Enola Gay???

Good up to the last line, then you use a rationalization that most parents
wouldn't accept from a four year old.

"Andy News" wrote in message
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| "Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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| I'm surprised no one has brought up this travesty.
|
| For those who don't know, the Enola Gay -- beautifully refurbished and
now
| on display at the new Udvar-Hazy facility of the National Air & Space
| Museum -- was damaged by some nut case from Ohio who threw something at
the
| plane and dented it during a protest against the atomic bombing of
Japan.
|
| If it were up to me, a life sentence without hope of parole would be too
| good for this jerk. To damage an irreplaceable aircraft, and a piece of
| history, is absolutely unconscionable.
|
| Margy, how bad is it?
|
|
| Would you react the same way if a refurbished Boeing 767 and a model
| of the world trade center was on display at the Afghan museum of
| history? Although the Hiroshima bombing was necessary to end the war,
| it is not something we should be proud of and display at a national
| museum.

Ah, yes. The old 'moral equivalence' argument. Dropping an atomic bomb on
Hiroshima to end more than ten years of the most horrible war in history is
somehow morally equivalent to the world trade center attack.

Makes about as much sense as the PETA argument that eating a chicken is
morally the same as killing a human.

You are an idiot.

Mutts wrote in message . ..
No I think that will about finish it.
If thats what you think your too far gone.
Do any of you jokers ever watch the History Channel even?
Im tired of suffering fools. Thank god your such a tiny minority.



Hello Pot, Kettle here. It's "you're", a contraction of "you" and "are".

"G.R. Patterson III"
I love aircraft too but would submit that the bomb IS the history. Of
course it was more than vaporized - quite a restoration project even for
the
pros at the Smithsonian.

They've got one of the "fat boy" bombs at the museum at Oshkosh. They
claim there's
nothing inside the casing, of course.

Having seen some of the restoration practices they follow I wouldn't be
surprised if they loaded the 'fat boy' full of nuclear material, then
emptied it before putting it on display.

Those folks are nuts in a good way.

Maule Driver wrote:

I love aircraft too but would submit that the bomb IS the history. Of
course it was more than vaporized - quite a restoration project even for the
pros at the Smithsonian.

They've got one of the "fat boy" bombs at the museum at Oshkosh. They claim there's
nothing inside the casing, of course.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

Aren't protests usually more effective if they're done *before* an
event takes place?

Didn't have any effect here last winter.

I think he wanted the protestor to take his argument to Harry Truman
in 1945.

I was referring to the protests that preceded the Iraq invasion.

-- David Brooks

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"plumb bob" wrote in message
For the rest of you, get off your moral high horses. War is a dirty
business. Think about that for a change. Think about the millions of
soldiers who fought and won that war, and then go visit D.C. to find
their
memorials. It is very disappointing that that generation is not properly
honored and remembered in my opinion. And you want to get upset that
someone dented the Enola Gay???

Good up to the last line, then you use a rationalization that most parents
wouldn't accept from a four year old.

Tell me how a dent in a heap of metal has any significance compared to what
happened to millions of people in the war. Then, you might have a case. Go
back and read the original post - the person who wrote the original post
behaved as if the sky was falling. These are just objects connected to
events of historical significance. The essence of the story is in the lives
of the people that lived and died in it, so we can enjoy the freedoms we
have today. All else is not very important in my opinion. Again, I find it
very disappointing that this generation is not better remembered. The FIRST
such national memorial will open on May 29, 2004 in Washington, D.C.... 59
years later.

www.wwiimemorial.com

Plumb Bob, straight up opinions.

plumb bob wrote:
Again, I find it
very disappointing that this generation is not better remembered.

You've got to be kidding. The WWII generation is the most remembered in
history. At any given time I can find a program on TV relating to WWII.
There have been more books written about WWII than any other. There
are numerous monuments relating to WWII in many places. Pearl Harbor
and the flag raising on Iwo Jima sculpture come to mind. Just because
there isn't a monument labelled for all WWII participants is a silly
argument. Besides it has been my experience that the harder it is to
get your monument erected in DC the more appreciated it is.

"plumb bob" wrote in message
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have today. All else is not very important in my opinion. Again, I find it
very disappointing that this generation is not better remembered. The
FIRST
such national memorial will open on May 29, 2004 in Washington, D.C.... 59
years later.

Too bad is it's going to be the most egregious visual eye-sore perpetrated
on the national mall since WWII.

"Corrie" wrote:
The "Peacemaker" never dropped a bomb in anger - it scared the
Soviets out of starting anything stupid in the dark days of the early
Cold War.

It would surprise me to learn that the Soviets were terrified of a
weapon based on the thoroughly discredited idea that heavily armed,
unescorted strategic bombers could fight their way deep into enemy
territory with acceptable losses. The B-36 always struck me as a flying
porkbarrel project propelled by Curtis LeMay's ego.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM