pilots refuse to fly with gun loons onboard

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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:23:00 GMT, "Morton Davis"
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 18:04:33 GMT, "Scout"
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 15:08:13 GMT, "Scout"
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"Bill Funk" wrote in message
news On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:37:33 -0700, "Kevin McCue"
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Wanna bet your life that they wouldn't miss? I wouldn't.
I'd
rather
deal
with the terrorist.
Since the Dept. of Homeland Insecurity seems to think
that
the
terrorist are likely trained ATP's how will the Air Marshal
stop
them
when
they are locked behind that now reinforced, bullet proof
cockpit
door?

The only way a terrorist could get behind that locked, bullet
proof
door is for someone to open it.
The British pliots (or rather, their union) seem to think that
having
the pilots open that door is a really good idea.

Right, which is why it was managed to be opened by a couple of
people
armed
with nothing more than a drink cart.

How did they open a locked bullet proof door with a drink cart?

They rammed the door with it.

You're claiming a locked bulletproof door gave way to ramming from a
drink cart?

I don't see why it couldn't happen. A bullet proof vest won't sto0p an
icepick.


http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/A...shalsWSJE.html

" Reinforced cockpit doors are now in place, but because of engineering
constraints few experts have much faith in their effectiveness. Last
summer, on a bet to test the doors' strength, an overnight cleaning
crew at Dulles Airport near Washington, D.C. rammed a drink cart into
one of the new doors on a United Airlines plane. The door reportedly
broke off its hinges. The doors for European airlines generally provide
even less protection."

-*MORT*-


A tripod webpage as a cite? C'mon Mort, you can't truly be serious
here boy.

Fine, then go to the source.

According to a report in Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine,a
cleaning crew 'tested' a new reinforced cockpit door by ramming it with a
beverage cart,and knocked the door off it's hinges.

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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:23:00 GMT, "Morton Davis"
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 18:04:33 GMT, "Scout"
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 15:08:13 GMT, "Scout"
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"Bill Funk" wrote in message
news On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:37:33 -0700, "Kevin McCue"
wrote:

Wanna bet your life that they wouldn't miss? I wouldn't.
I'd
rather
deal
with the terrorist.
Since the Dept. of Homeland Insecurity seems to think
that
the
terrorist are likely trained ATP's how will the Air Marshal
stop
them
when
they are locked behind that now reinforced, bullet proof
cockpit
door?

The only way a terrorist could get behind that locked, bullet
proof
door is for someone to open it.
The British pliots (or rather, their union) seem to think
that
having
the pilots open that door is a really good idea.

Right, which is why it was managed to be opened by a couple of
people
armed
with nothing more than a drink cart.

How did they open a locked bullet proof door with a drink cart?

They rammed the door with it.

You're claiming a locked bulletproof door gave way to ramming from
a
drink cart?

I don't see why it couldn't happen. A bullet proof vest won't sto0p
an
icepick.


http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/A...shalsWSJE.html

" Reinforced cockpit doors are now in place, but because of engineering
constraints few experts have much faith in their effectiveness. Last
summer, on a bet to test the doors' strength, an overnight cleaning
crew at Dulles Airport near Washington, D.C. rammed a drink cart into
one of the new doors on a United Airlines plane. The door reportedly
broke off its hinges. The doors for European airlines generally provide
even less protection."

-*MORT*-


A tripod webpage as a cite? C'mon Mort, you can't truly be serious
here boy.

Fine, then go to the source.

According to a report in Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine,a
cleaning crew 'tested' a new reinforced cockpit door by ramming it with a
beverage cart,and knocked the door off it's hinges.



Angkor can't be bothered to actually click on a link.

-*MORT*-