unusual flying jobs

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 06:25:16 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:


"Mike O'Malley" wrote in message
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
om...
Its interesting that you have to have an A&P ticket to fly with these
guys.


I've seen a lot of bush operators requireing this. Let's face it, when
you're
operating in the back country, it is not always possible to get an A&P to
look
at your descrepancy. If the pilot is a trained mechanic, he can
persumably make
a safe determination to the extent of the mechanical defficiency, and
weather or
not it's safe to fly with, or make field repairs. Or radio for parts and
tools
he or she needs to fix it.

Heck, it's not even limited to bush flying. When I was towing banners we
all
spent some time in the shop, learning basic maintinance on the aircraft.
When I
went on longer runs that ended in an outstation, I'd have duct tape, a
couple of
spare plugs, safety wire, and some basic hand tools. Just in case.

Am I an A&P mechanic? No. Can I change a spark plug? Yes.


Let's see...the narrow end of the screw driver is used for, what again? :~)

Opening your beer can when the tab breaks off :-)

Rob

Mike O'Malley wrote:
When I went on longer runs that ended in an outstation, I'd have duct tape,
a couple of spare plugs, safety wire, and some basic hand tools. Just in case.

Am I an A&P mechanic? No. Can I change a spark plug? Yes.

Huh? I carry that in the back of the cherokee all the time! I've been stuck
in airports within an hour drive of a major city but at night
with no shop open (or available). And spare landing light and position
lights. And quart of oil.

And I can barely find the engine in my car.

C J Campbell wrote:

Unfortunately, he and his camera man were killed in an accident in the
Galapagos in 1999.

Yep. He put a 250 pound Imax camera above and in front of the wing of a Quicksilver
GT500. With the cameraman on board, that had the plane overloaded by at least 130
pounds and loaded extremely nose heavy. When he reached cruise altitude for a photo
run, it went into an unrecoverable dive.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

"Blanche" wrote in message
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Mike O'Malley wrote:
When I went on longer runs that ended in an outstation, I'd have duct tape,
a couple of spare plugs, safety wire, and some basic hand tools. Just in
case.

Am I an A&P mechanic? No. Can I change a spark plug? Yes.

Huh? I carry that in the back of the cherokee all the time! I've been stuck
in airports within an hour drive of a major city but at night
with no shop open (or available). And spare landing light and position
lights. And quart of oil.

Oh yeah, forgot about the oil. Mainly because we ran Aeroshell 120, and nobody
seems to carry it. And the mavel mystery oil. No spare lights- we didn't have
any. Just about anything else would either ground the plane, or could be
deferred (oh, it's only ONE broken rib, put some duct tape on it and you'll make
it home ok. You've got 12 more where that one came from...) ;-)

And I can barely find the engine in my car.


I can find my engine, now the spark plugs, that's another matter (darned
transverse V6's!)

--
Mike

Mike O'Malley wrote:

I can find my engine, now the spark plugs, that's another matter (darned
transverse V6's!)

I hear that! I only have a 4-banger in my truck, but it has two plugs per cylinder.
Seems like I have to remove half the accessories and part of the fuel injector to
get at all of them. I've argued for decades that auto designers should be forced
to work as mechanics on their designs for 3 months each year.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Did they recover the film?

Peter

"Bushy" wrote in message
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| Did they recover the film?
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They did. They had already completed several days of shooting. Raisner had
done this before for National Geographic, and they had tested the setup
before going up the side of the mountain. The IMAX film "Galapagos" is
dedicated to Raisner.

(Robert M. Gary) wrote in message . com...
Its interesting that you have to have an A&P ticket to fly with these guys.

Room and board will probably be the maximum if you want to fly in Africa
or South America. Checkout http://www.jaars.org/aviation.shtml
If I was "unencumbered" I would fly for JAARS you will never forget the
experience and you will see parts of the world that most never will.

BTW, driving a cab pays better than most flying jobs.


R. Hubbell

That's also what I thought when I first read it , but I think that he
meant IA to mean "Instrument Airplane" rating.

Skyking

That's also what I thought when I first read it , but I think that he
meant IA to mean "Instrument Airplane" rating.

Yeah, my bad. I did mean IA to be instrument airplane, and
only after I posted did I realize/remember that it means
something totally different.

However, the jaars.org posting that another fellow made
does actually require an A&P, though no the A&P w/ IA.

-- dave j

ost (Ditch) wrote in message ...
I have this kernel of a romantic dream of flying
around Africa for a couple of years for some relief
agency or something.

Check out www.airserv.org
They even pay as opposed to jaars, which is volunteer.


Yeah, these guys look cool, though their requirements
mean that this adventure would be set back several
years:

MINIMUM EMPLOYMENT QUALIFICATIONS

PILOT QUALIFICATIONS
Captain of Aircraft US License PIC Turbine PIC ME PIC
Single Engine Recip FAA CPL/IR 1200
Single Engine Turbine FAA CPL/IR 1500 100
Multi Engine Turbine FAA CPL/ME 1800 100 500


At 220 hours, I've got a ways to go. I guess I was
imagining seeing requirements in the 500 TT range.

It's not clear if they have lower FO requirements,
however.

I had a talk about this with my instructor (many thousand
hour ATP rated codger type) over lunch
the other day, and he seems to be of the opinion that
these requirements for such lowly and dangerous jobs are
ludicrous, and that the invisible hand of economics will
swing back and adjust them to more reasonable levels --
as more would-be pilots realize that it's not worth it.

I wonder, though if the lure of aviation is just so
great that it will continue to swamp rationality forever.
After all, it has with me. On the other hand, I really
don't plan to make my fortune in aviation. I just don't
want to lose it that way.

-- dave j