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Old January 4th 04, 04:42 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message ...

And here we make fun of journalists for assuming that all private
aircraft are Cubs.


They aren't?

No, there are two types of private aircraft: Cubs (sometimes called a Cessna Cub)
and Learjets. It depends on whether it has propellers or not.

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Old January 4th 04, 04:44 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...
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Maybe *you* do. The FBI shoots to kill. I don't know what the policy of the Air
Marshalls is.

I guess it depends whatever supposed law-enforcement training they had before going
in for the 5 days of "air marshal training." Some of it was pretty spotty.

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Old January 4th 04, 07:25 PM
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Richard Riley wrote:

A minor quibble - you shoot to STOP.


Maybe *you* do. The FBI shoots to kill. I don't know what the policy of the Air
Marshalls is.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."
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Old January 4th 04, 07:33 PM
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Cub Driver wrote:

Perhaps I never do, but evidently I am in a small minority, given the
number of guys I've met tracking deer through my woods by the blood
trail.


I had to follow a blood trail once. Turned out, I had put a Federal Ammo 8mm
bullet right through the lungs at 80 yards. The deer made it 100 yards through
heavy brush and covered itself over with leaves. Had to come back with a dog to
find it.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."
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Old January 5th 04, 03:44 AM
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message

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The only REAL one shot kill/stop is a shot to the (I'm going to botch

the
spelling here I'm sure) Obdula Oblongota (the part of the brain you take

out
when you shoot yourself in the mouth to commit suicide).


Medulla Oblongata. And it's amazing how many people miss this (or

anything
else lethal) when putting a gun in their mouth.


Quickie tonsillectomy.


Quite. "Securing the situation" means taking out all the bad guys, even
those hang back.


Depends what service you're in :-)


Room Service.



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Old January 5th 04, 03:45 AM
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message

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Are you stupid by birth or do you work at it? We've had seeral here

suggest
that one shout merely shoot to disable. During 40 years of shooting I've
heard several people suggest that one should only "shoot to wound". The
people that confuse movies with reality is appalling, especially when it
comes down to life and death siuation.


Phasers on stun, Mr. Spock.


Owwwww!!!


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Old January 5th 04, 03:45 AM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Richard Riley wrote:

A minor quibble - you shoot to STOP.


Maybe *you* do. The FBI shoots to kill. I don't know what the policy of

the Air
Marshalls is.

Shoot to annoy!


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Old January 5th 04, 03:49 AM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Cub Driver wrote:

Perhaps I never do, but evidently I am in a small minority, given the
number of guys I've met tracking deer through my woods by the blood
trail.


I had to follow a blood trail once. Turned out, I had put a Federal Ammo

8mm
bullet right through the lungs at 80 yards. The deer made it 100 yards

through
heavy brush and covered itself over with leaves. Had to come back with a

dog to
find it.


Shoulda' gone for a neck shot!


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Old January 5th 04, 03:50 AM
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"Bill A." wrote in message
link.net...

I carry 2 reloads, actually (22 rds total). I can accurately (@7 yrds)

empty A mag
in about 3-4 seconds. Even with a first shot kill, the other 7 rounds

will be flying
before someone "stops". 4 sec. to reload, so roughly 10 sec. to "stop"

and prepare
for the unseen partner.


Have you ever really had to use a gun for a living? I say this only

because
you just fired off all of your ammo at someone who you yourself said may

be
dead. My question to you now is what are your going to do about the second
person behind you?

Two words for you my friend...Double Tap.


Three shots as a Mozambique Drill.


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Old January 5th 04, 03:51 AM
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"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
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And keep your piece loaded with Hydra-Shoks T... Frangible crap is just
that - crap; window dressing to calm the hysterical...
Denny


Frangibles work well inside a urban home, at distances of less than 20 feet.



 




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