OK, what the hell has happened to the Brits?

"Dave" wrote in message
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Compare that with being despised by most of the world and the target of
terrorists (freedom fighters) and incapable of doing anything about it.


If most of the world chooses to despise the US because we choose to take
action against terrorism instead of being helpless victims to it then I am
quite content to be despised.



Has Afghanistan made any difference? No
Has Iraq made any difference? No


No difference? Well, I don't know what was down the path not taken, but
apparently you do. There have been no terrorist attacks on US soil since
9/11/01. Would that have been true had the US not chosen to take the
offensive against terrorism?



Just look at the US body count since 911.


Well, the body count on US soil since 9/11/01 is zero. Compare that to the
body count on 9/11/01.



About 20,000 nationals of Afghanistan and Iraq who were non combatants
have
also been killed.


What's your source for that figure?



911 was a tragedy but the real tragedy is that the US has not learned a
single lesson from it. I hope that the next lesson will be learnt and
understood.


What lesson should the US have learned?

"Dave" wrote in message
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Haven't the terrorists won? They have caused paranoid fear in the US (then
again they already were fairly paranoid). They have nearly paralysed the
US
aviation transport system (and nearly bankrupted it), caused a redneck
warmongering illegally elected President to spend billions on a war (which
will perpetuate terrorism) and numerous other side-effects............


Illegally elected president? You need to find better sources of
information.



Glad I don't live in the states!


I'm glad you don't live in the states too.

"Dave" wrote in message
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You don't have many rights now despite your guns.


But we have more rights than you do.

"Dave" wrote in message
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Nothing wrong with it at all. Guns are illegal. We voted for it, after a
Columbine type incident. We surrendered our licenced sporting guns.


Was the vote unanimous?

"Dave" wrote in message
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And also FWIW Europeans dont fear guns.


Fear and ignorance are the reasons for banning guns.

Haven't the terrorists won? They have caused paranoid fear in the US
(then
again they already were fairly paranoid). They have nearly paralysed the
US
aviation transport system (and nearly bankrupted it), caused a redneck
warmongering illegally elected President to spend billions on a war
(which
will perpetuate terrorism) and numerous other side-effects............


Illegally elected president? You need to find better sources of
information.

Oh well , Ex King George Bush I fixed it for the new King George Bush II
with the help of Prince Jeb Bush the brother. I understand the Prince is the
ruler of Florida where the result of the election is "what ever you want it
to be bro", "well done son"
Tyrany of the kings - what the betting on King Jeb Bush.

No argument about the rest though.

"Dave" wrote in message
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Oh well , Ex King George Bush I fixed it for the new King George Bush II
with the help of Prince Jeb Bush the brother. I understand the Prince is
the
ruler of Florida where the result of the election is "what ever you want
it
to be bro", "well done son"
Tyrany of the kings - what the betting on King Jeb Bush.


What a shame. Until now you seemed reasonably intelligent, although
obviously misguided.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Dave" wrote in message
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Nothing wrong with it at all. Guns are illegal. We voted for it, after a
Columbine type incident. We surrendered our licenced sporting guns.


Was the vote unanimous?


Next week they are all turning in their automobiles. Week after that their
bicycles and roller-skates. Week after that all the bathtubs get torn out.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Yes. It is much better to allow the terrorist to take over the airplane
and
deliberately kill everybody on board while causing as much death and
destruction on the ground as possible.

Of course, they could just want to fly to Cuba and let everyone
off.

More likely they'll be coming from Cuba and want to land safely
in the US!

Paul

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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It really
seems to have worked like a charm in the UK where soon after banning
firearms alltogether, gun related crimes went sky-high.

I don't know why people from the US persist in this belief.

I refer to my posts
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L22C42007
and
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I3AC21007
and
http://makeashorterlink.com/?E6EB52007

Gun crime has risen sharply over the past couple of years. Nothing
to do with banning handguns as people have never kept handguns
for protection like in the US. Gun club members could keep them
at home (locked away), after 1997 they can't, they have to keep
them locked at the club. In either case, these were for competition
use only, and as such, licenses were only given for such use.

The ban on keeping handguns at home only ever affected the
sporting gun owner. All it did was prevent such a person from
"going postal". It had no effect on the protection of individuals,
one way or the other.

As pointed out, gun crime only really affects those "in or related to
the business". The general population can go about their business
without even thinking that anyone else has a gun. Before or after.

You have to realise that the way of life is different over here.

Paul