OK, what the hell has happened to the Brits?

Given that american constitutional law has it's roots in British common law
there are far more similarities than differences... A major difference is
that the Bill Of Rights of our Constitution specifically prohibits the
government from banning our firearms... That the federal government, and
many state governments, have almost from the moment of the signing of the
Constitution denied that such a guarantee exists, and given that our
Supreme Court chooses to persue it's own social agenda and make gun rulings
that are nothing less than a slap in the face of the framers of the
constitution, this is an issue that is not going to go away...

denny


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"Tony Cox" wrote:

Don is talking about the lower rate of other crimes, not firearm
crimes. Since (IIRC) the night-time burglary rate in New York is
about 20% of that in London, he has a point -- few people are
likely to climb through a window if they think the occupant has
a shotgun on the other side.

From what I have seen of New York, it has a large number of high rise
apartment buildings. They would be a big deterrent to burglars in
themselves - anything without a ground floor exit directly to the
outside would make many burglars think twice. My impression is that
London has less of these.

I could be wrong - I haven't lived in either city - but my point is
that you can't draw conclusions like this from the figures, without
knowing whether they have been corrected for this sort of factor. This
is why statistics have a reputation of being deceiving - you can prove
almost anything if you ignore the right factors.

Assuming that the figures and reasons are correct, I don't think that
I like the tradeoff anyway. You may be less likely to be burgled
overall, but it is still much more likely that you will be burgled by
someone with a gun - which makes it much more likely that you will be
killed by a burglar.

In article , "Dave"
writes:


Yes, it is. Strongarm robberies, home invasion robberies, assualt and
battery,
and stranger rape are far more common than here in the states.

Don

Don't think so.

This is quoted from a Home Office Report (Like Justice Dept)

a firearm offence is any offence in which a firearm is 'used', whether
fired, used as a blunt instrument or in a threat.

So?

I specified strongarm robberies, home invasion robberies, assault and battery,
and stranger rape. None of those involve firearms and all are more common in
Britain and Europe than here. (NOTE: possible language barrier, home
invasion=/=burglary. Home invasion robberies are specifically forcefull
robberies in an occupied dwelling)

Also note that rape overall is more common here, but stranger rape is not.
There might be a reporting difference involved as I do not know how statutory
and date rape are defined and reported in europe.

Don

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG

We do not lock our doors... Any invasion of my house requires the purp to
get past the dog... After that I may point out to him that invading my home
is viewed with extreme prejudice...

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