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Old January 15th 04, 12:20 PM
Bob Noel
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In article . net,
"Mike Rapoport" wrote:

Do YOU want to pay for it? How about privatizing all the airports to pay
for it? A $5 gallon tax on fuel? There really is no upside to doing
this.
We are already overspending at a rate that is unsustainable.


I'm willing to pay for a real space program. I'd rather pay
for that than a lot of the stupid stuff Congress jams into
the budget that just ****es our money away.

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Old January 15th 04, 12:39 PM
Jay Honeck
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I'm willing to pay for a real space program. I'd rather pay
for that than a lot of the stupid stuff Congress jams into
the budget that just ****es our money away.


The Federal Gubmint (thanks to our own Senator Grassley) has appropriated $5
million (it may be more) to build a RAIN FOREST here in Iowa City.

You heard me right -- a goddam RAIN FOREST. Most people around here are
dumbfounded, since the developer was unable to drum up any local support for
the cockamamie idea.

Still think we can't afford to cut the budget enough to pay for a real space
program?
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article . net,
"Mike Rapoport" wrote:

Do YOU want to pay for it? How about privatizing all the airports to

pay
for it? A $5 gallon tax on fuel? There really is no upside to doing
this.
We are already overspending at a rate that is unsustainable.



--
Bob Noel



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Old January 15th 04, 12:45 PM
plumb bob
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I'm willing to pay for a real space program. I'd rather pay
for that than a lot of the stupid stuff Congress jams into
the budget that just ****es our money away.


The Federal Gubmint (thanks to our own Senator Grassley) has appropriated

$5
million (it may be more) to build a RAIN FOREST here in Iowa City.

You heard me right -- a goddam RAIN FOREST. Most people around here are
dumbfounded, since the developer was unable to drum up any local support

for
the cockamamie idea.

Still think we can't afford to cut the budget enough to pay for a real

space
program?


By that logic, spending any amount is ok. There is a big difference between
$5 million and $1 trillion.


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Old January 15th 04, 02:01 PM
Jay Honeck
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By that logic, spending any amount is ok. There is a big difference
between
$5 million and $1 trillion.


Multiply that one instance by a thousand, and you'll come close to the pork
in this budget.

And your "$1 trillion" is nothing but boiler-plate. You're talking about
the total cost of a 25 - 40 year project.
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Old January 15th 04, 01:04 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:5SvNb.72676$xy6.132296@attbi_s02...

The Federal Gubmint (thanks to our own Senator Grassley) has appropriated

$5
million (it may be more) to build a RAIN FOREST here in Iowa City.

You heard me right -- a goddam RAIN FOREST. Most people around here are
dumbfounded, since the developer was unable to drum up any local support

for
the cockamamie idea.

Still think we can't afford to cut the budget enough to pay for a real

space
program?


Sure, there is plenty of unconstitutional spending that could be cut to pay
for other unconstitutional activities.


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Old January 15th 04, 02:07 PM
Jay Honeck
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Sure, there is plenty of unconstitutional spending that could be cut to
pay
for other unconstitutional activities.


I can see why Federal spending on a rain forest in Iowa would be
unconstitutional -- it clearly is -- but space exploration?

Who else BUT the Federal government could do it?
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Old January 15th 04, 02:11 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I can see why Federal spending on a rain forest in Iowa would be
unconstitutional -- it clearly is -- but space exploration?


Do you find a provision for space exploration in the Constitution?



Who else BUT the Federal government could do it?


No other single entity could, but that doesn't make it constitutional.


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Old January 15th 04, 02:40 PM
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I can see why Federal spending on a rain forest in Iowa would be
unconstitutional -- it clearly is -- but space exploration?


Do you find a provision for space exploration in the Constitution?


Of course not. But that doesn't make it unconstitutional.

The question is this: Does space exploration fit inside the framework laid
out by the Constitution?
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Old January 15th 04, 02:50 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Of course not. But that doesn't make it unconstitutional.


No? Then what does make something unconstitutional?



The question is this: Does space exploration fit inside the framework laid
out by the Constitution?


One man's space program is another man's rainforest.


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Old January 15th 04, 02:52 PM
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In article et, "Steven P.
McNicoll" writes:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:P8xNb.72880$8H.111891@attbi_s03...

I can see why Federal spending on a rain forest in Iowa would be
unconstitutional -- it clearly is -- but space exploration?


Do you find a provision for space exploration in the Constitution?


Same place Jefferson found authorization for Lewis and Clark.

Don

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