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Old January 15th 04, 02:56 PM
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Same place Jefferson found authorization for Lewis and Clark.


What place was that?


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Old January 15th 04, 04:09 PM
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"Wdtabor" wrote in message
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Same place Jefferson found authorization for Lewis and Clark.


What place was that?



Hee Hee.

That is the point. There is no direct reference to space exploration any more
than there was for exploring the West. But Article 1 section 8, in the second
to last paragraph authorizes the erection of forts, magazines, dockyards and
other needful buildings in new territories and earlier for the establishment of
a Navy.

The FAA and ATC are extensions of the authorization to build Postal and other
roads and to regulate interstate commerce. We applied the clear intent of the
Constitution to new technology and situations that were not anticipated at the
time it was written.

Jefferson saw expansion of the US into the west and exploration of and securing
those new territories as essential to the defense and security of the US. I
would agree that holding the "high ground" and strategic advantage in the new
territories outside the atmosphere as essential to our security as well. We
will either lead the world or be lead by it.

I don't trust the rest of the world, and I do not want to surrender the high
ground to the Chinese. If we don't take and hold space, the Chinese certainly
will.

Don

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Old January 15th 04, 04:26 PM
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"Wdtabor" wrote in message
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Hee Hee.

That is the point. There is no direct reference to space exploration any

more
than there was for exploring the West. But Article 1 section 8, in the

second
to last paragraph authorizes the erection of forts, magazines, dockyards

and
other needful buildings in new territories and earlier for the

establishment of
a Navy.

The FAA and ATC are extensions of the authorization to build Postal and

other
roads and to regulate interstate commerce. We applied the clear intent of

the
Constitution to new technology and situations that were not anticipated at

the
time it was written.

Jefferson saw expansion of the US into the west and exploration of and

securing
those new territories as essential to the defense and security of the US.

I
would agree that holding the "high ground" and strategic advantage in the

new
territories outside the atmosphere as essential to our security as well.

We
will either lead the world or be lead by it.

I don't trust the rest of the world, and I do not want to surrender the

high
ground to the Chinese. If we don't take and hold space, the Chinese

certainly
will.


So space is a new US territory, and we're exploring it for the purpose of
erection of forts, magazines, dockyards and other needful buildings?


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Old January 15th 04, 04:37 PM
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:26:28 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"

So space is a new US territory, and we're exploring it for the purpose of
erection of forts, magazines, dockyards and other needful buildings?


And what do you think our lives would be like if there had been
no exploration of space at all?

What is our very home of Earth but a spacecraft itself? carrying 6
billion astronauts around our star, the sun, which is circling the
galaxy? Don't you think that what we learn extending ourselves into
space will directly benefit and improve how we live on Earth? Its the
same problems. Recycling water, small power sources, efficient ways
to grow food. The benefits are huge. We just dont know what
we will learn on this journey. That is the spirit and purpose of
exploration, it is no different then then now. The frontiers
have changed is all.
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Old January 15th 04, 04:46 PM
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And what do you think our lives would be like if there had been
no exploration of space at all?


Vastly different than it is now. Tell me, when should the US government
adhere to the Constitution and when should it not?


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Old January 15th 04, 05:20 PM
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In article et, "Steven P.
McNicoll" writes:


So space is a new US territory, and we're exploring it for the purpose of
erection of forts, magazines, dockyards and other needful buildings?



More like the open seas, but we have bases established all over the world to
support the Navy in its efforts to keep those seas open.

If we are to keep space open for our use, both commercial and military, we must
explore it and establish the necessary presence there.

Don

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Old January 15th 04, 05:23 PM
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More like the open seas, but we have bases established all over the world

to
support the Navy in its efforts to keep those seas open.

If we are to keep space open for our use, both commercial and military, we

must
explore it and establish the necessary presence there.


We keep sea lanes open for purposes of commerce. Who are we trading with in
space?


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Old January 15th 04, 05:58 PM
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In article et, "Steven P.
McNicoll" writes:


We keep sea lanes open for purposes of commerce. Who are we trading with in
space?


You ever use a GPS? Get a weather report? Make a long distance call? Watch TV?

Do you think anyone anticipated they would use those services when we navigated
with sextants?

Don

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Old January 15th 04, 06:07 PM
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"Wdtabor" wrote in message
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You ever use a GPS? Get a weather report? Make a long distance call? Watch
TV?


Yup, all of the above. But who are we trading with in space?



Do you think anyone anticipated they would use those services when we

navigated
with sextants?


No. But who are we trading with in space? What does anything that you
listed have to do with establishing a base on the moon or going to mars?


 




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