Question: "Overhead Entry to Downwind?"

Maybe the real test is for all these hotshot gun toting stuff the 45
degree entry pilots to take the practical test again fly their normal
way and see whether they would get a pink slip.

Please don't use the Private Pilot Test Standards as the basis of your
argument as some of us were trained beyond them.

A pattern entry should be based on judgment, not herd mentality. One size
does not fit all. Base your approach on terrain, traffic, your airplane and
any other factors that may be present.

Hopefully, anyone who has earned a PP has the ability to merge his or her
airplane into a pattern full of traffic in a seamless manner using an entry
that helps the flow.

I think the root of this debate is that most pilots today are not taught to
control their airplanes in the pattern. They can't fly slow, and they don't
know to look first and talk later.

Deb

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1946 Luscombe 8A (His)
1948 Luscombe 8E (Hers)
1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (Ours)
Jasper, Ga. (JZP)

"Henry and Debbie McFarland" wrote in message link.net...
Maybe the real test is for all these hotshot gun toting stuff the 45
degree entry pilots to take the practical test again fly their normal
way and see whether they would get a pink slip.

Please don't use the Private Pilot Test Standards as the basis of your
argument as some of us were trained beyond them.

A pattern entry should be based on judgment, not herd mentality. One size
does not fit all. Base your approach on terrain, traffic, your airplane and
any other factors that may be present.

Hopefully, anyone who has earned a PP has the ability to merge his or her
airplane into a pattern full of traffic in a seamless manner using an entry
that helps the flow.

I thought that's what the 45 degree entry is about and why the FAA
whose role is safety advise it. Mind you I realise that some of you in
this newsgroup posess more wisdom that the collected experience of all
the NTSB investigators all the flight safety specialists, all the FAA
inspectors and all of the examiners put together. I am truely lucky to
be a witness to your wisdom.

I humbly apologise for following the herd, for wanting to be part of
an orderly pattern where pilots behave consistantly. I stand
corrected.

No, I realise that it is better for some pilots to do as they please,
communicating their intentions at their discretion.

I am really lucky to be learning so much from this newgroup. At the
end of my first lesson on this topic I have discovered that so many
people are capable of talking out of their assholes.

HOWEVER,

I suspect this will turn out to be an issue of flying the pattern.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/7735795.htm

Jeb wrote:

HOWEVER,

I suspect this will turn out to be an issue of flying the pattern.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/7735795.htm

Actually, my first instinct was this is not "flying the pattern issue"
but typical high wing vs low wing blind spots. From the artical, both
planes were on downwind.

Sounds from the artical, that the two planes intermingled on downwind,
and just didn't see each other due to the blindspot created by wings.

Allen