Cessna 180 vs. 182 vs. 185

Paul Sengupta wrote:


Isn't the 185 the predecessor of the 206?

The 180 came first. Narrow body, 230 HP, tail wheel. Then in '56 came
the 182. It was just the 180 with a nosewheel. In '61 the 185 was
born. It was the same as the 180 with a 260 HP IO-470 engine. Some
structural beef up was included. In '62 the 182 was widened 4 inches.
In '63 the 205 was introduced, it was the 210 with fixed gear, although
at the time it was called the Super Skylane. In '64 Cessna beefed up
the 205 and created the 206. In '65 the 205 was dropped. In '66 the
185 got the 520 for 285 HP as an option, standard in '67.

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Paul Sengupta wrote:


Isn't the 185 the predecessor of the 206?

The 180 came first. Narrow body, 230 HP, tail wheel. Then in '56 came
the 182. It was just the 180 with a nosewheel. In '61 the 185 was
born. It was the same as the 180 with a 260 HP IO-470 engine. Some
structural beef up was included. In '62 the 182 was widened 4 inches.
In '63 the 205 was introduced, it was the 210 with fixed gear, although
at the time it was called the Super Skylane. In '64 Cessna beefed up
the 205 and created the 206. In '65 the 205 was dropped. In '66 the
185 got the 520 for 285 HP as an option, standard in '67.

Bleargh!

So was the 185 ever widened? When did it get 6 seats, or did it always
have 6 seats in certain guises? In the same size plane as a 180? Or as a
later 182? 'eck!

Paul

Paul Sengupta wrote:

So was the 185 ever widened?

No.

When did it get 6 seats, or did it always have 6 seats in certain guises?

It always had 6. The 180 had 6 after 1963.

In the same size plane as a 180?

Yep.

Or as a later 182?

The 182 is longer and taller, but has the same wingspan.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

The 185's rear seats are basically kid seats. It's pretty tight in the
back, not like a 206. 206 is more popular with guys hauling people or
freight off average strips. The 185 is better for unimproved strips.
And the 185 is for real pilots.

Dan

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Paul Sengupta wrote:

So was the 185 ever widened?

No.

When did it get 6 seats, or did it always have 6 seats in certain guises?

It always had 6. The 180 had 6 after 1963.

In the same size plane as a 180?

Yep.

Or as a later 182?

The 182 is longer and taller, but has the same wingspan.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

For all things 180/185 check out
http://www.skywagon.com/skywagons.html
click on the "model changes"

Both the 180 and 185 have narrower cabins than the 182. Neither the
180 or 185 have a rear full height cargo door (something the 206 has).
But the 206 doesn't have a copilot door. Both the 180 and 185 have the
"jack screw" trim (on the floor) as opposed to a "trim tab". Both the
180 and 185 have manual flaps. The models evolved over the years,
bigger better engines, slightly differnt wings and modern (basic six)
panels.

Early Cessna 182's were narrower than the later models, and the early
182's had the "jack screw" trim and manual flaps. The early 182's were
a nosewheel version of the 180, but after they changed the 182 to the
modern config, it got a wider cabin, different trim and electric flaps
so the differences grew over time.

The 206 is larger and will hold large cargo. It is substantially
easier to load and unload. It has a nosewheel of course. If fitted
with the STC's copilot door, it is the most desirable small
charter/freight airplane up north.

Doug wrote:

Both the 180 and 185 have narrower cabins than the 182. Neither the
180 or 185 have a rear full height cargo door (something the 206 has).
But the 206 doesn't have a copilot door.

The P206 does. The U206 does not.

Paul Sengupta wrote:

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Paul Sengupta wrote:


Isn't the 185 the predecessor of the 206?

The 180 came first. Narrow body, 230 HP, tail wheel. Then in '56 came
the 182. It was just the 180 with a nosewheel. In '61 the 185 was
born. It was the same as the 180 with a 260 HP IO-470 engine. Some
structural beef up was included. In '62 the 182 was widened 4 inches.
In '63 the 205 was introduced, it was the 210 with fixed gear, although
at the time it was called the Super Skylane. In '64 Cessna beefed up
the 205 and created the 206. In '65 the 205 was dropped. In '66 the
185 got the 520 for 285 HP as an option, standard in '67.


Bleargh!

So was the 185 ever widened?

No.


When did it get 6 seats,

Never.


or did it always
have 6 seats in certain guises?

Well, like the 182 it had an option for those jokes they call childs seats.


In the same size plane as a 180? Or as a
later 182? 'eck!

The 180 and the 185 always were and are the same size. Now, they do
have some pretty nice extended baggage areas that can be installed. As
a matter of fact Selkirk Aviation just got an extended baggage for the
wide body 182's STC'd. I'll be doing that to mine, it goes back from
the current rear bulkhead 34 inches.

In article TJWOb.101010$xy6.181841@attbi_s02,
Newps wrote:


When did it get 6 seats,

Never.

Huh? 185 has 6 seats...and the rear seats are big enough for a 6"2"
175lb person.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Dale wrote in news:dfalk-5BA37B.16182819012004
@corp.supernews.com:

In article TJWOb.101010$xy6.181841@attbi_s02,
Newps wrote:


When did it get 6 seats,

Never.

Huh? 185 has 6 seats...and the rear seats are big enough for a 6"2"
175lb person.


I remember spending some time in the back of a 185 as a skinny 12 year old
kid. It was tight with two us back there and the seat was very low. Two
adults would be a real squeeze.

- Carl -

Dale wrote in news:dfalk-5BA37B.16182819012004
@corp.supernews.com:


In article TJWOb.101010$xy6.181841@attbi_s02,
Newps wrote:



When did it get 6 seats,

Never.

Huh? 185 has 6 seats...and the rear seats are big enough for a 6"2"
175lb person.

The 185 is a four place airplane, just like the 180 because that is what
it is. You can get a childs seat for two in the baggage area. Just
like the 182 or even the girlie cherokee 140. You either get those two
seats in the baggae area or a place to carry baggage, but not both.