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  #21  
Old January 19th 04, 09:10 PM
David
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Under the category of "suspicions confirmed," you might like to read
this piece from the Aero-News email newsletter this morning:


snip

Related story- One time in my life a long time ago I was present during an
aircraft incident that generated a lot of news coverage. I was in a
position to know who talked to who and what the facts were. Nobody involved
wanted to talk to the press and only a few brief factual statements were
made. I saw it all. That night on the news, I was amazed to find out how
much the news people just simply fabricated additional 'facts' to make it
sound more interesting. They literally just wrote a fictional story that
was remotely based on actual events that day. Nobody at the tv station
would talk to me about it afterwards.


  #22  
Old January 20th 04, 01:47 AM
Robert Henry
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It is considerably plausible that the broadcast was designed to instill a
sense of public panic and would therefore qualify for complaint as follows:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts...broadcast.html

If local law enforcement has chosen to visit the premises for the purpose of
any type of inspection, within a certain "immediate" timeframe since the
broadcast....

He should at least file a complaint as follows:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/journalism.html


  #23  
Old January 20th 04, 02:07 AM
BTIZ
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when I lived in New Hampshire.. If there was a car accident.. I could ready
the Nashua paper and get one story.. and read the Manchester Union Leader
and get an entirely different story on the same car accident...

so imagine how it is with politics... or labor disputes..

Glad to see it has not changed with CBS...

BT

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

Under the category of "suspicions confirmed," you might like to read
this piece from the Aero-News email newsletter this morning:

John Trissel: I Was Ambushed By CBS
Eagle's Nest Operator Says He Was "Grossly Mistreated" By
"Tiffany Network"

"I've never been so let
down in my life."

Those words from a bemused John Trissel, manager of the Eagles
Nest flying community outside of Waynesboro (VA) -- the man who was
quoted in the much-ballyhooed CBS story slamming GA security last
week.

Trissel estimates he's received some 200 flaming emails from
pilots and aviation enthusiasts, slamming him for his interview.
They say things like, "With promoters like John Trissel in the
industry, we won't have general aviation in a few years." Or, "It
was an incredibly stupid move. You might want to practice for your
next career."

The truth is, John
Trissel is as upset as everyone else about the way the CBS story
treated general aviation. Only he's more upset than most. He says
CBS took his interview out of context.

"They (CBS) knew exactly what they wanted to do to legitimize
their scam," he told ANN Sunday. "They would say things like, 'Do
you do it this way?' and I'd say no, but here's how we handle it.
They only air the part that said what they wanted it to say."

For instance, Trissel says, they asked him about whether pilots
at Eagle's Nest used baggage scanners. "No," he'd answer, "but we
only fly with people we know. If we have any questions about a bag,
it stays on the ground."

In fact, Trissel says
the CBS producer who called from Washington didn't let on what the
story was about. "What happened was they found an ad on a realtor's
site and called us. They called the realtor and said they'd like to
do a story on living with your aircraft. They said, 'We think
that's real unique.' So we put out the pretzels and candy and had
'em down here."

But only when the camera started rolling did the real motive for
the visit become apparent. "They started asking questions that
weren't what we expected. I've given a lot of interviews in my
career," Trissel said." I never had something so bad happen. I
usually get treated fairly by the press."

So what is the rest of the story?

"Of the 54 airplanes parked here at Eagle's Nest, all but about
four are locked up. Those four are transients," Trissel told ANN.
"We live right on the runway. We always know when someone is coming
or going -- even late at night. I always look out and talk with
(whoever is flying). If the voice doesn't match the owner of the
aircraft, I'm on the phone with law enforcement."

That's a relationship Trissel says was completely ignored in the
CBS story. "They wouldn't let me talk about the security measures
we do use or about the relationship we have with law enforcement.
If we have a problem, boom! They're here."

In short, Trissel says, "We felt like we got strung up pretty
good."

Since the day after the interview, Trissel says the flame-on
emails from pilots have subsided. Some have even written back to
apologize, apparently realizing that something was wrong and it
wasn't Trissel.

"I got several apologies from folks who flew off the handle and
wanted to say they're sorry."
FMI: www.eaglesnest.aero

For the WHOLE story, go to

http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav....e-96328707f241


all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

see the Warbird's Forum at
www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com



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Old January 20th 04, 02:14 AM
Judah
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Seems that the FCC is pretty limited in what they can do....

Perhaps, tho, we should encourage them to make all complaints public record
so the people can decide for themselves...


"Robert Henry" wrote in
news:3N%Ob.4276$_H5.983@lakeread06:

It is considerably plausible that the broadcast was designed to instill
a sense of public panic and would therefore qualify for complaint as
follows:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts...broadcast.html

If local law enforcement has chosen to visit the premises for the
purpose of any type of inspection, within a certain "immediate"
timeframe since the broadcast....

He should at least file a complaint as follows:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/journalism.html




  #25  
Old January 20th 04, 03:29 AM
Robert Henry
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Seems that the FCC is pretty limited in what they can do....


I think you underestimate the size and power of that bureaucracy. Here's
the list of hot topics. See anything that affects you in your daily life?

Wireless Local Number Portability (WLNP)
Do Not Call Advisory
Parents Place
Rural Telecommunication
Cellular Telephone Specific Absorption Rate (SAR)
What You Should Know About Wireless Phone Service
High Speed Internet Access (Broadband)
Environmental and Historic Preservation Page
Information About Your Telephone Carrier
Understanding Your Phone Bill

Can you see "Understanding 'the News'" or "What You Should Know about
Sensational News Programs" or "Tabloid Television Journalism Advisory" or
"Information about your National News Broadcaster" on the list?

See also some of the numbers on this page:

http://www.fcc.gov/headlines.html

I'm not saying any such would apply in this case, but broadcast licenses do
have to be renewed....Also, freedom of speech has limits (e.g., yelling fire
in a theatre, invasions from mars, and mindless speculation of [fill in the
conveyance] commandeered by terrorists, etc)


Perhaps, tho, we should encourage them to make all complaints public

record
so the people can decide for themselves...


They are. Did you notice that 'standing' is not required? Any person or
group can make a complaint. The FCC may choose not to act upon it, but maybe
that isn't required. Accountability can be generated in many indirect ways.

Of course, it may be counterproductive to have someone erroneously draw the
conclusion that in fact suburban airpark communities are far more secure
than other types of airports. Oh no!


  #26  
Old January 20th 04, 03:44 AM
John Harlow
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I feel for him. I have been burned this way myself more than once.


Didn't they get written permission from you to broadcast the
interview?

Instead of getting burned "more than once", perhaps inform them next
time in writing they are to not use your image nor statements unless
you specifically approve the entire article exactly as it will be
aired.



At which point they will laugh and go find someone else. None of them
are going to give you approval authority.


Sounds like a great outcome to me.


  #27  
Old January 20th 04, 04:24 AM
Richard Hertz
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This sounds a lot like what that ass Michael Moore did when he interviewed
(among others) the bank "giving away guns" in the mis-awarded and
mis-categorized "best documentary," "Bowling for Columbine."



"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

Under the category of "suspicions confirmed," you might like to read
this piece from the Aero-News email newsletter this morning:

John Trissel: I Was Ambushed By CBS
Eagle's Nest Operator Says He Was "Grossly Mistreated" By
"Tiffany Network"

"I've never been so let
down in my life."

Those words from a bemused John Trissel, manager of the Eagles
Nest flying community outside of Waynesboro (VA) -- the man who was
quoted in the much-ballyhooed CBS story slamming GA security last
week.

Trissel estimates he's received some 200 flaming emails from
pilots and aviation enthusiasts, slamming him for his interview.
They say things like, "With promoters like John Trissel in the
industry, we won't have general aviation in a few years." Or, "It
was an incredibly stupid move. You might want to practice for your
next career."

The truth is, John
Trissel is as upset as everyone else about the way the CBS story
treated general aviation. Only he's more upset than most. He says
CBS took his interview out of context.

"They (CBS) knew exactly what they wanted to do to legitimize
their scam," he told ANN Sunday. "They would say things like, 'Do
you do it this way?' and I'd say no, but here's how we handle it.
They only air the part that said what they wanted it to say."

For instance, Trissel says, they asked him about whether pilots
at Eagle's Nest used baggage scanners. "No," he'd answer, "but we
only fly with people we know. If we have any questions about a bag,
it stays on the ground."

In fact, Trissel says
the CBS producer who called from Washington didn't let on what the
story was about. "What happened was they found an ad on a realtor's
site and called us. They called the realtor and said they'd like to
do a story on living with your aircraft. They said, 'We think
that's real unique.' So we put out the pretzels and candy and had
'em down here."

But only when the camera started rolling did the real motive for
the visit become apparent. "They started asking questions that
weren't what we expected. I've given a lot of interviews in my
career," Trissel said." I never had something so bad happen. I
usually get treated fairly by the press."

So what is the rest of the story?

"Of the 54 airplanes parked here at Eagle's Nest, all but about
four are locked up. Those four are transients," Trissel told ANN.
"We live right on the runway. We always know when someone is coming
or going -- even late at night. I always look out and talk with
(whoever is flying). If the voice doesn't match the owner of the
aircraft, I'm on the phone with law enforcement."

That's a relationship Trissel says was completely ignored in the
CBS story. "They wouldn't let me talk about the security measures
we do use or about the relationship we have with law enforcement.
If we have a problem, boom! They're here."

In short, Trissel says, "We felt like we got strung up pretty
good."

Since the day after the interview, Trissel says the flame-on
emails from pilots have subsided. Some have even written back to
apologize, apparently realizing that something was wrong and it
wasn't Trissel.

"I got several apologies from folks who flew off the handle and
wanted to say they're sorry."
FMI: www.eaglesnest.aero

For the WHOLE story, go to

http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav....e-96328707f241


all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

see the Warbird's Forum at
www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com



  #28  
Old January 20th 04, 09:44 AM
Scott Skylane
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Richard Hertz wrote:

This sounds a lot like what that ass Michael Moore did when he interviewed
(among others) the bank "giving away guns" in the mis-awarded and
mis-categorized "best documentary," "Bowling for Columbine."

You never watched the video, did you?

Happy Flying
Scott Skylane

 




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