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Old January 23rd 04, 08:23 PM
C J Campbell
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Heh, heh, heh. And if you step out of line we will report you AGAIN!

Seriously, instead of doing a big background check and looking up all your
papers, sounds like the agent did the smart thing -- he just asked you. He
was able to learn a lot more about you and the issues involved that way.
They would have noticed if you had tried to flee.


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Old January 23rd 04, 08:37 PM
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Seriously, instead of doing a big background check and looking up all your
papers, sounds like the agent did the smart thing -- he just asked you. He
was able to learn a lot more about you and the issues involved that way.
They would have noticed if you had tried to flee.


Right. Had he been a real terrorist, Michael would have evaporated into thin
air when the doofus FBI agent left his card on his door.

Criminy -- this "special agent" acted less covertly than I did when I was
looking for dead-beat dads in the inner city. I sure hope his actions
aren't representative of our national security efforts.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old January 23rd 04, 08:45 PM
Rob Perkins
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Criminy -- this "special agent" acted less covertly than I did when I was
looking for dead-beat dads in the inner city. I sure hope his actions
aren't representative of our national security efforts.


Perhaps the agent knew he wasn't going to be interviewing a terrorist
and just did it so the people who tipped him off would see due
diligence on the part of the FBI?

Your tax dollars at work.

Rob
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Old January 23rd 04, 08:50 PM
C J Campbell
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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| Seriously, instead of doing a big background check and looking up all
your
| papers, sounds like the agent did the smart thing -- he just asked you.
He
| was able to learn a lot more about you and the issues involved that way.
| They would have noticed if you had tried to flee.
|
| Right. Had he been a real terrorist, Michael would have evaporated into
thin
| air when the doofus FBI agent left his card on his door.
|
| Criminy -- this "special agent" acted less covertly than I did when I was
| looking for dead-beat dads in the inner city. I sure hope his actions
| aren't representative of our national security efforts.
| --

The agent did not seriously believe that Michael was a terrorist and had
reason to believe that we knew enough about him that he was not a terrorist.

He may have told Michael that he had not looked at his INS file and may only
have been pretending to be ignorant of its contents. He might have gotten
more serious if Michael had answered questions contrarily to what the FBI
already knew.

The FBI routinely looks at your checking accounts when they begin an
investigation and would have done this before even contacting Michael. They
would have checked to see whether endorsements on checks deposited in his
account matched other signatures they had of his, for example. They would
also have looked for anomalous disbursements or deposits. This technique has
been so successful at uncovering terrorists that the FBI has not really
changed its methods in 40 years. Originally they started checking bank
accounts at random just to see what would turn up. They found one bank
account that had checks bearing five different signatures all with the same
name. They sent a rookie agent by the name of Jason Moulton out to stake out
the house and he ended up catching Patty Hearst and several other members of
the Symbionese Liberation Army. Not bad for a rookie. He told me that when
he went in through the back door that Patty Hearst was sitting at a kitchen
table, cleaning a disassembled weapon. He was real glad that she was not
armed.


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Old January 23rd 04, 09:00 PM
Jay Honeck
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They found one bank
account that had checks bearing five different signatures all with the

same
name.


Gee, there's a surprise.

It has been my experience, both as a businessman, and as a credit union
board member, that banks will accept ANY signature, even ones with a
different name.

I'll bet you ten bucks right now I could sign "Mickey Mouse" on one of my
checks, and it would be accepted. I've seen it done.

No one looks.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old January 23rd 04, 09:07 PM
Marco Leon
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Again, that's why it works to the FBI's favor. A true terrorist will know
that they don't check all the signatures and sign-away.

I used to work for a major bank and customers would consistenly be surprised
that you can write a straight line and they will take the check.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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They found one bank
account that had checks bearing five different signatures all with the

same
name.


Gee, there's a surprise.

It has been my experience, both as a businessman, and as a credit union
board member, that banks will accept ANY signature, even ones with a
different name.

I'll bet you ten bucks right now I could sign "Mickey Mouse" on one of my
checks, and it would be accepted. I've seen it done.

No one looks.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"





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Old January 23rd 04, 10:05 PM
Peter Gottlieb
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It has been my experience, both as a businessman, and as a credit union
board member, that banks will accept ANY signature, even ones with a
different name.


Signatures are not required around here, except on government checks. Your
account number is all they really want there. Everyone simply uses rubber
stamps with their acct # and maybe some boilerplate legalese.


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Old January 24th 04, 04:12 AM
Pilot Bob \(I am just a great guy!!\)
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It has been my experience, both as a businessman, and as a credit union
board member, that banks will accept ANY signature, even ones with a
different name.


That is correct. I do it with checks and also on credit card slips. I
especially have fun at the Home Depot self checkout. I have used various
sigs, including:

H. O. MeDepotSucks
E. Atme.
Haywood Jablome (an oldie, but one of my all time favorites)
Your Service Sucks (scribbled)

.... never had a problem. The trick is to make sure you are using your OWN
credit card and your OWN check book :-)

Pilot Bob ()


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Old January 24th 04, 05:37 AM
BTIZ
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when we changed treasures at our flying club after 3 years.. I called the
bank to arrange new signature cards for the checking account. They could not
even find who's "name" was on the club account, let alone find the signature
cards.

And all "I" had to do was come in to the bank with minutes from the last
meeting showing who was elected treasure.. and they would "update" the
account and create new cards... based on that security.. we just blew it
off..

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:3YfQb.4665$U%5.27293@attbi_s03...
They found one bank
account that had checks bearing five different signatures all with the

same
name.


Gee, there's a surprise.

It has been my experience, both as a businessman, and as a credit union
board member, that banks will accept ANY signature, even ones with a
different name.

I'll bet you ten bucks right now I could sign "Mickey Mouse" on one of my
checks, and it would be accepted. I've seen it done.

No one looks.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old January 24th 04, 01:04 PM
Cub Driver
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It has been my experience, both as a businessman, and as a credit union
board member, that banks will accept ANY signature, even ones with a
different name.


When I first got Quicken and pre-printed checks, I was so excited that
I forgot to sign the first batch.

I called the IRS to tell them of this terrible problem. They just
laughed. (First time I ever heard a laugh from the IRS.) "Let's wait
until next month and see what happens."

Right! All three checks cleared my bank without any problem.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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