Kerry is a pilot?

"Carrie Seddon" wrote in message
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Kerry doesn't deserve Vietnam vets' support.

BY STEPHEN SHERMAN Guest to the Wall Street Journal
Monday, January 26, 2004

A turning point may have been reached in the Iowa caucuses when Special
Forces Lt. James Rassmann came forward to thank John Kerry for saving his
life
in Vietnam. Although Mr. Rassmann, like most of my veteran friends, is a
Republican, he said that he'd vote for Mr. Kerry. I don't know if the
incident
influenced the caucus results. But I took special interest in the story
because Jim served in my unit.

I think it was the $6.5 million Kerry got from mortgaging Mrs. Heinz' house
that bought the Iowa cacuses for Kerry.

Service in Vietnam is an important credential to me. Many felt that such
service was beneath them, and removed themselves from the manpower pool.
That
Mr. Kerry served at all is a reason for a bond with fellow veterans; that
his
service earned him a Bronze Star for Valor ("for personal bravery") and a
Silver Star ("for gallantry") is even more compelling.

More impressive was Representative Ford saying Kerry has 2 siver stars and a
bronze star on Fox this morning.

Unfortunately, Mr.
Kerry came home to Massachusetts, the one state George McGovern carried in
1972. He joined the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and emceed the Winter
Soldier Investigation (both financed by Jane Fonda). Many veterans believe
these protests led to more American deaths, and to the enslavement of the
people on whose behalf the protests were ostensibly being undertaken. But
being a take-charge kind of guy, Mr. Kerry became a leader in the VVAW and
even testified before Congress on the findings of the Investigation, which
he
accepted at face value.

Some South Viet Namese were literally sold into slavery, to pay the Soviet
Union for their support.

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"Carrie Seddon" wrote in message
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Mr. Kerry served at all is a reason for a bond with fellow veterans;
that
his
service earned him a Bronze Star for Valor ("for personal bravery") and
a
Silver Star ("for gallantry") is even more compelling.

I read something in the last day or so that details the circumstances under
which Kerry won his decorations. To say things were very overblown is..well,
accurate.


More impressive was Representative Ford saying Kerry has 2 siver stars and
a
bronze star on Fox this morning.

Unfortunately, Mr.
Kerry came home to Massachusetts, the one state George McGovern carried
in
1972. He joined the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and emceed the
Winter
Soldier Investigation (both financed by Jane Fonda). Many veterans
believe
these protests led to more American deaths, and to the enslavement of
the
people on whose behalf the protests were ostensibly being undertaken.
But
being a take-charge kind of guy, Mr. Kerry became a leader in the VVAW
and
even testified before Congress on the findings of the Investigation,
which
he
accepted at face value.

Some South Viet Namese were literally sold into slavery, to pay the Soviet
Union for their support.

The North Vietnamese killed more people in South Vietnam AFTER the US left
in 1975 than were killed in eleven years of fighting.

I get a kick out of this. Kerry was wounded 3 times in combat situations
(Shrapnel and bullets...puts him kind of close to the action, no?), but his
medals were overblown and when he requested to be sent back home, as was his
right after being thrice wounded, he was shirking his duties, but GW was
just a stupid youngun when he was AWOL from his cushy, daddy provided
assignment in the ANG.

I swear, somebody's putting LSD in your drinking water.

mike regish

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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Silver Star ("for gallantry") is even more compelling.

I read something in the last day or so that details the circumstances
under
which Kerry won his decorations. To say things were very overblown
is..well,
accurate.

"mike regish" wrote in message
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I get a kick out of this. Kerry was wounded 3 times in combat situations

All three of his wounds were superficial/band-aid level.

(Shrapnel and bullets...puts him kind of close to the action, no?),

I don't see anyone denying that.

but his
medals were overblown and when he requested to be sent back home, as was
his
right after being thrice wounded, he was shirking his duties,

Three superfical wounds? I've seen people receive more serious injuries
playing sports off duty.

What's more, his Silver Star was for giving the coup de grac to a VC that
was already wounded by a .50 cal. WOW!!!


but GW was
just a stupid youngun when he was AWOL from his cushy, daddy provided
assignment in the ANG.

And here again comes the urban legend about Bush being AWOL...

Spoken like someone totally ignorant of the military.


I swear, somebody's putting LSD in your drinking water.

Must be you putting in what you didn't injest yourself.

Kerry is certainly counting on the gullability of segments of the population
and you're providing him positive feedback.

Try digging a bit outside the mainstream press before shoving your head up
your ass.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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I get a kick out of this. Kerry was wounded 3 times in combat situations

All three of his wounds were superficial/band-aid level.

By the grace of God - does this somehow impugn his service?


Three superfical wounds? I've seen people receive more serious injuries
playing sports off duty.

And the point is?


What's more, his Silver Star was for giving the coup de grac to a VC that
was already wounded by a .50 cal. WOW!!!




but GW was
just a stupid youngun when he was AWOL from his cushy, daddy provided
assignment in the ANG.

And here again comes the urban legend about Bush being AWOL...

Spoken like someone totally ignorant of the military.


I swear, somebody's putting LSD in your drinking water.

Must be you putting in what you didn't injest yourself.

Kerry is certainly counting on the gullability of segments of the
population
and you're providing him positive feedback.

Try digging a bit outside the mainstream press before shoving your head up
your ass.

"Michael 182" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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I get a kick out of this. Kerry was wounded 3 times in combat
situations

All three of his wounds were superficial/band-aid level.

By the grace of God - does this somehow impugn his service?

Not at all, but it does give suuport to the contention that his service was
pruely for political gain, not any sense of "duty, honor, country".


Three superfical wounds? I've seen people receive more serious injuries
playing sports off duty.

And the point is?

See above. When it suites his purpose, he's a "great warrior". That is
downright pathological.




What's more, his Silver Star was for giving the coup de grac to a VC
that
was already wounded by a .50 cal. WOW!!!

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"Michael 182" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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I get a kick out of this. Kerry was wounded 3 times in combat
situations

All three of his wounds were superficial/band-aid level.

By the grace of God - does this somehow impugn his service?

Not at all, but it does give suuport to the contention that his service
was
pruely for political gain, not any sense of "duty, honor, country".

I'm sorry, I just don't get it. How does the fact that he was lucky enough
to escape with superficial wounds "give suuport to the contention that his
service was pruely for political gain, not any sense of "duty, honor,
country".

The man went to the front lines in Vietnam. If he felt that risking his life
was also a resume builder for a future career, is that somehow bad? The
military advertises everyday that joining is a step to a career, that they
build leaders, that service yields lifelong benefits.

I'm sure conservatives can find plenty to attack on John Kerry's political
life and current positions. Attacking his military service just makes the
relevant arguments look small.

Michael

Michael

I think Bush already has that segment sown up.

mike regish

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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Kerry is certainly counting on the gullability of segments of the
population
and you're providing him positive feedback.

"mike regish" wrote in message
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I think Bush already has that segment sown up.

As well as the election.

Kerry's clowns are now out claiming there was no threat.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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Kerry is certainly counting on the gullability of segments of the
population
and you're providing him positive feedback.

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"mike regish" wrote in message
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I think Bush already has that segment sown up.

As well as the election.

Kerry's clowns are now out claiming there was no threat.

Well, that's the media, selectively quoting the Kay report. A report running
hundreds of pages and they pick one or two pages out of contet. Small wonder
they ahve no clue about the military intelligence process. No small wonder
either since they're the ones that sabotaged it (the Intelligence Community)
in the first place.

Hey, since they say no WMD's what was Bubba talking about when he said:"One
way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop
weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our
bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

And: "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of
mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

And what was Kerry talking about when he said:

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real
...." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Kerry's information is as convenient as his military "service".