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In article ,
Robert Lyons wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:


What causes the most severe damage to the environment? Cutting down
millions
of trees or planting one Bush?



Environmentalists cause the most damage.

Yeah, just like flashlights create cockroaches when you point them into dark
corners.


Banning DDT has caused more deaths than any dictator. Muslims should be
envious of the success environmentalists have had in killing and causing
suffering.

A forest in Colorado had Spruce Budworm back in the 1930's. They
sprayed with DDT. It killed the worms. The trees died, but their roots
did not. A new tree grew out of each root structure right next to the
dead tree trunk. We now have the world's weirdest forest, with a dead
tree and a distorted live tree right next to the dead one. This would
not have happened if they had not sprayed.

I was flying up in Canada west of Prince George. There is a huge area
there infected by pine beetles. The locals are bemoaning that the
government doesn't do anything. Trouble is, there isn't any fix that
will give a better result than mother nature running her course. Been
there, done that.

I'm not saying there aren't times when insecticides are appropriate.
But not always. Biological systems are very complex. We humans just
don't know and don't have all the tools to do the right thing. Nature
does. Just give it time.


Legrande Harris wrote in message .. .
In article ,
Robert Lyons wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:


What causes the most severe damage to the environment? Cutting down
millions
of trees or planting one Bush?



Environmentalists cause the most damage.

Yeah, just like flashlights create cockroaches when you point them into dark
corners.


Banning DDT has caused more deaths than any dictator. Muslims should be
envious of the success environmentalists have had in killing and causing
suffering.

"Doug" wrote in message
om...
| A forest in Colorado had Spruce Budworm back in the 1930's. They
| sprayed with DDT. It killed the worms. The trees died, but their roots
| did not. A new tree grew out of each root structure right next to the
| dead tree trunk. We now have the world's weirdest forest, with a dead
| tree and a distorted live tree right next to the dead one. This would
| not have happened if they had not sprayed.
|
| I was flying up in Canada west of Prince George. There is a huge area
| there infected by pine beetles. The locals are bemoaning that the
| government doesn't do anything. Trouble is, there isn't any fix that
| will give a better result than mother nature running her course. Been
| there, done that.
|
| I'm not saying there aren't times when insecticides are appropriate.
| But not always. Biological systems are very complex. We humans just
| don't know and don't have all the tools to do the right thing. Nature
| does. Just give it time.

Sure, if you don't mind the Dutch elm becoming extinct.

C J Campbell wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
om...

| I'm not saying there aren't times when insecticides are appropriate.
| But not always. Biological systems are very complex. We humans just
| don't know and don't have all the tools to do the right thing. Nature
| does. Just give it time.

Sure, if you don't mind the Dutch elm becoming extinct.

Since there has never been a "Dutch Elm" species I don't see why anyone
would mind if it became extinct.

There is a fungal infection called Dutch Elm disease to which different elm
species show varying degrees of susceptibility, but not to the point of it
causing extinction. The American elm is particularly susceptible, but would
not have become extinct given the length of time it takes for the fungus to
kill the tree. Even if infected, new trees may already reproduce before
they are killed by the fungus. In a natural setting the more susceptible
species will have their range reduced and there will be selective pressure
to increase resistance until stability is restored. The introduction of
resistant hybrid strains is an artificial attempt to speed up this process,
but extinction would not have been likely in any event.

The problem we perceive is largely manmade with the deliberate planting of
row upon row of the same species of elm down city streets and in replanted
forests followed by the inadvertent introduction of the fungus in imported
wood from Europe.

In my part of Michigan there is disease that goes through the white birch
trees in my woods about once a decade and kills them... Being they are not
a hot political issue no gov't agency has come to my 'rescue' with a cure
worse than the disease... As a result I still have lots of white birch trees
even if the big old ones have died off...
denny

"Doug" wrote in message Trouble is, there
isn't any fix that
will give a better result than mother nature running her course. Been
there, done that.

"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message ...
In my part of Michigan there is disease that goes through the white birch
trees in my woods about once a decade and kills them... Being they are not
a hot political issue no gov't agency has come to my 'rescue' with a cure
worse than the disease... As a result I still have lots of white birch trees
even if the big old ones have died off...

Of course, we don't have any American Chestnut to speak of anymore.

Ron Natalie wrote:

Of course, we don't have any American Chestnut to speak of anymore.

They're actually pretty close to having a survivable strain. Two approaches have
been used by different outfits. One guy has been cross-breeding with Asian
chestnuts and another outfit has been trying to build up immunity by working
with the most disease resistant wild trees he can find. IIRC, the latter group
is closest to release. The NPS is already talking about the need to relax the regs
against introducing plants to the National Parks when the time comes, especially
if it's the Asian cross-breed that's most successful.

George Patterson
Love, n.: A form of temporary insanity afflicting the young. It is curable
either by marriage or by removal of the afflicted from the circumstances
under which he incurred the condition. It is sometimes fatal, but more
often to the physician than to the patient.

"Doug" wrote in message om...
A forest in Colorado had Spruce Budworm back in the 1930's.

Is Spruce Budworm a ancester of Spuds McKenszie?