OT (sort of): CBS revisited

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Dennis,

teen pregnancy


That, one might argue, is - among other factors - connected to how kids
are introduced to sex and how open a society deals with sex. Which
nicely brings us back to the topic.

http://www.umm.edu/pediatrics/pregnancy.html

Paul Sengupta wrote:

http://www.umm.edu/pediatrics/pregnancy.html

So they pick four countries, point out that the U.S. has a higher teen pregnancy
rate than those four, and use that to support a headline that the rate is "highest
in the U.S.". If you pick your countries carefully, you can probably prove about
anything.

A major Norwegian paper was recently complaining that studies show that Norway
has the highest teen pregnancy rate. We can't both be the highest.

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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Paul Sengupta wrote:

http://www.umm.edu/pediatrics/pregnancy.html

So they pick four countries, point out that the U.S. has a higher teen
pregnancy
rate than those four, and use that to support a headline that the rate is
"highest
in the U.S.". If you pick your countries carefully, you can probably prove
about
anything.

I think it was supposed to reflect the countries with the closest
social structure, maybe picking ones with a more "relaxed" attitude
to the human body and sex. While Sweden is often quoted, the
most "open" countries in this respect are more like The Netherlands,
Germany and Denmark.

It's oft-quoted here in the UK that with their very liberal attitudes
towards sex in The Netherlands, they have a much lower teenage
pregnancy rate than in the UK, possibly the lowest in Europe. The
UK has the highest...and probably the "stuffiest" attitude towards
sex.

I'm not necessarily agreeing with liberal attitudes to sex, or saying
they're good for society, just that there appears to be a relation
to the immediate question, if not to the original one.

http://listarchives.his.com/smartmar.../msg00008.html

A major Norwegian paper was recently complaining that studies show that
Norway
has the highest teen pregnancy rate. We can't both be the highest.

As for Norway vs. the US, here are some figures from:
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

Teen pregnancies per 1,000 teenagers:

United States 98.0
United Kingdom 46.6
Norway 40.2
Canada 38.6
Finland 32.1
Sweden 28.3
Denmark 27.9
Netherlands 12.1
Japan 10.5

These figures roughly agree with the ones he

http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/journals/gr030303.html

There's a graph of teenage births he
http://www.optimumpopulation.org/opt.more.famplan.html

Sorry, I don't have any agenda or political point here, so if I've
quoted any politically biased sites for the figures, I apologise, I
was just googling for the figures.

Paul