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Old February 13th 04, 08:03 AM
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In Alaska, as you drive down a two lane road, you may see signs that
state "AIRCRAFT HAVE RIGHT OF WAY ON ROAD".


In Alaska I landed on the Dalton highway (actually a 2 lane gravel
road) a few times to go camping. The locals didn't bat an eye, but
the tourists thought I was some kind of lunatic.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)



I went to an FAA Wings safety seminar last night. The topic was about
flying in Alaska. One of the speakers told me that Alaska permits aircraft
to use all public highways.


Yu can land on a road provided its not done in a careless
or reckless fashion. Some troopers may consider landing on a
highway reckless. Others will block traffic for you to let
you take off.

Of course, I only do it when I suspect low oil pressure, in
which case the landing is precautionary.

Alaska Statue 02.30.030. Reckless Operation.

(a) A person may not operate an aircraft in the air or on
the ground or water in a careless or reckless manner so as
to endanger the life or property of another. In a proceeding
charging careless or reckless operation of aircraft in
violation of this section, the court, in determining whether
the operation was careless or reckless, shall consider the
standards for safe operation of aircraft prescribed by
federal statutes or regulations governing aeronautics.


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Old February 13th 04, 11:53 AM
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In Alaska I landed on the Dalton highway


In Valemount, Canada, the local airport was too small (or too rough?)
for the skier from Texas who flew in with a twin-engine plane. So the
Mounties blocked the highway--including Valmount's main street, as I
recall.

Guy taxied right into the motel parking lot and parked near the
helicopter that would take him skiing for the next six days. Wife or
girlfriend stepped down, wearing sunglasses that made her look just
like Jackie O.

Didn't get a chance to talk to him; we were outward bound, by bus.

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Old February 13th 04, 02:06 PM
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Cub Driver wrote in
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In Alaska I landed on the Dalton highway


In Valemount, Canada, the local airport was too small (or too rough?)
for the skier from Texas who flew in with a twin-engine plane. So the
Mounties blocked the highway--including Valmount's main street, as I
recall.

Guy taxied right into the motel parking lot and parked near the
helicopter that would take him skiing for the next six days. Wife or
girlfriend stepped down, wearing sunglasses that made her look just
like Jackie O.

Didn't get a chance to talk to him; we were outward bound, by bus.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Must be tough

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fools."---- Douglas Adams
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Old February 13th 04, 02:26 PM
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"CFLav8r" wrote in message ...
I've kind of wondered..... If I owned enough land somewhere "could" I just
land my plane on an appropriate surface? or would it have to be a
registered airport? Would it matter if it was an Ultralight, or an "N"
registered plane??


About 15 years ago I remember a sign on the side of the road down in the
Florida Keys (Summerland Key to be more specific) that stated that cars must
yield right of way to taxiing aircraft. I don't know if that sign is still
there but it sure was funny to see.
Now up here in Central Florida there's an airstrip called Cedar Key (KCDK)
and at that airstrip it is now illegal to use the taxiway for aircraft
movement.
Go figure!

David (KORL)


Ahh. That brings up fond memories. I used to fly into ther, have Edna
drive us to town to get some of the best seafood in Fla. Hearing her
stories were worth the trip evey time. And the wagon she drove had to
have had a million miles on it too. Those were the days !!!!!!!

Ben Haas N801BH Jackson Hole Wy.
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Old February 15th 04, 04:38 AM
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My "understanding" of TN law is that you can, in an emergency, land on any
public highway. You cannot, however, take off from one (without some sort
of permission).


"ET" wrote in message
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The guy complaining about the next door airport got me thinking more about
a question that's been rolling around in my head for some time.

I'm not a pilot (yet), don't own a plane, or even any significant land,

but
I've kind of wondered..... If I owned enough land somewhere "could" I just
land my plane on an appropriate surface? or would it have to be a
registered airport? Would it matter if it was an Ultralight, or an "N"
registered plane??

What are the rules (federal) that govern this? or is it a state by state
thing (I'm in Texas if it really matters).

I know I here of planes in Alaska that land on a local road, pull up to

the
rural gas station to fill up, and take off again (or is that an Urban
Legend?)


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Old February 24th 04, 03:11 AM
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:27:01 GMT, ET wrote:

What are the rules (federal) that govern this? or is it a state by state
thing (I'm in Texas if it really matters).


As others have pointed out, the feds don't care but the state or local
authorities may:

When I lived in New Jersey, it was illegal to land, except in an
emergency, anywhere but at a state approved airport. I ran afoul of
that once when I made an emergency landing on a pier (which was legal)
and then flew it out again the next day (which wasn't).

One guy made an emergency landing on the Garden State Parkway and got
a ticket for entering not from an on ramp and failure to pay the toll.

Of course, that's NJ, where everything not compulsory is forbidden.

In Connecticut where I live now, it used to be that you needed to
register a field as a state registered airport if you used it for more
than (IIRC) 30 operations per month. I'm pretty sure this has since
ben repealed, and now they don't care what you do.

A guy in my town wanted to build an airstrip. The town zoning people
told him ultralights were OK, but registered aircraft weren't.

I sometimes fly my paramotor from a State park here in CT. Once a cop
stopped by... no problem, just wanted to chat and make sure I wasn't
flying over the adjacent nuke plant (I wasn't). OTOH, in NY state
parks, ALL forms of aviation are prohibited, in a language that would
seem to make even birds felons.

-Dana
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Old February 24th 04, 11:59 AM
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When I lived in New Jersey, it was illegal to land, except in an
emergency, anywhere but at a state approved airport.


Apparently this is also true of water. Damian Delgaizo at Andover
Flight Academy was talking about getting floats for his Husky. The
training would have to take place in Pennslyvania.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old February 24th 04, 10:42 PM
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 06:59:28 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote:


When I lived in New Jersey, it was illegal to land, except in an
emergency, anywhere but at a state approved airport.


Apparently this is also true of water. Damian Delgaizo at Andover
Flight Academy was talking about getting floats for his Husky. The
training would have to take place in Pennslyvania.


It may depend on the water. I lived in Silverton (on Barnegat Bay)
and I sometimes saw a seaplane operating on Kettle Creek near there.
Perhaps tidal water is/was OK. I had considered getting floats for
my T-Craft as I could get a real good price, but I decided against it,
partly because I only had a 65, but also because I was concerned about
sal****er corrosion on the old steel tube fuselage.

-Dana
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Old February 27th 04, 10:29 PM
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WELL, YOU CANT LAND IT AT MEIGS ANYMORE

Trace Lewis

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