when does a "remain clear" instruction end?

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Well, suppose the pilot returns tomorrow and establishes two-way
communication with the Class C controller. Yesterday's remain-clear
instruction still has not been explicitly rescinded. So is it still
in
effect, or can the pilot now enter the Class C?


What happened yesterday? Why didn't the pilot respond to the
controller's
calls?

Who said the pilot didn't respond? ATC: "Cessna 12345, remain clear of
Class C". N12345: "Roger". N12345 flies around the Class C to some
destination, then returns the following day and establishes the requisite
two-way communication before entering Class C. Is yesterday's "remain
clear" instruction still in effect? If not, when did it expire?

--Gary



It doesn't matter but conceptually, the "remain clear" does not expire. The
next day, the pilot will again make contact to gain entry to the class C.
The pilot will say, "Cessna 1234, 8 NE, landing Big City, with information
Echo." The controller will respond with "Cessna 1234, standby" - which is a
clearance to enter the class C, negating any previous instructions to remain
clear. Hearing no acknowledgement, or an explicit "remain clear" is a new
instruction to remain clear.

Whether it is a few minutes later, later the same day, the next day,
whatever, there is no explicit cancelation of the "remain clear" necessary.

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Travis

"Travis Marlatte" wrote in message
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It doesn't matter but conceptually, the "remain clear" does not expire.
The next day, the pilot will again make contact to gain entry to the
class C. The pilot will say, "Cessna 1234, 8 NE, landing Big City,
with information Echo." The controller will respond with "Cessna
1234, standby" - which is a clearance to enter the class C, negating
any previous instructions to remain clear.


You're right that he can enter Class C airspace but for the wrong reason.
The instruction to remain clear was not carried forward to the next day.
The controller tried to contact the aircraft again a couple of times, the
pilot didn't respond, the controller watched his target proceed around the
Class C airspace, so he concluded the pilot no longer wanted to enter the
airspace and discarded the strip. The call the following day is a new
flight unrelated to the previous.