when does a "remain clear" instruction end?

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 13:40:37 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in Message-Id:
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So, I asked both, wouldn't you tell the pilot that he is now 'cleared to
enter the C', to avoid confusion.. They both replied that there is no
confusion... The clearance to enter a Class C airspace is establishing
radio contact using the tail number exactly as spelled out in the AIM..


Yes, if nothing else is said that is correct. But in this case the aircraft
was instructed to remain clear of Class C airspace and that instruction
remains in effect until some instruction is issued that permits entry.

If the controller who issued the "remain clear of Class C" instruction
was not the controller responsible for operations inside of the Class
C airspace, it would seem that radio contact with the controller who
is would grant permission to enter. In any event, to bring the issue
to the fore, I would have said, "facility name approach, Cessna 1234
location altitude _restricted_outside_Class_C, request..."

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

If the controller who issued the "remain clear of Class C" instruction
was not the controller responsible for operations inside of the Class
C airspace, it would seem that radio contact with the controller who
is would grant permission to enter.


Entry is based on establishing two-way radio communications with the ATC
facility, not with a specific controller.