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Old February 16th 04, 06:35 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Sorry. I assumed it was a realistic hypothetical. My mistake.


There's nothing unrealistic about a controller forgetting about traffic.
Happens all the time.

Says who?


Says me.


That was rhetorical. You don't have the authority to set the parameters for
the hypothetical situation, since you didn't pose the situation.

I know what controllers do.


You know what you'd like all controllers to do always. But they don't
comply.

Why are you fixated on the strip? The strip has nothing to do with

entering
Class C airspace. What made you think it did?


Your claim that the absence of a strip is why the "remain clear" is no
longer valid the next day.

Either the strip is important or it's not. If it's not (as you are now
saying), then its absence the next day is completely irrelevant to the
question of whether the "remain clear" is still in effect.

Pete


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Old February 20th 04, 04:29 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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There's nothing unrealistic about a controller forgetting about traffic.
Happens all the time.


Actually, it's pretty rare. What does happen fairly often is pilots miss
radio calls shipping them to another frequency. These pilots don't realize
they've missed a few radio calls and wrongly assume ATC forgot about them.



That was rhetorical. You don't have the authority to set the
parameters for the hypothetical situation, since you didn't pose
the situation.


I set no parameters. I simply assumed Mr. Drescher was asking a real-world
hypothetical question.



You know what you'd like all controllers to do always. But they don't
comply.


I know what all controllers are supposed to do, you aren't in a position to
know if they comply with requirements.



Your claim that the absence of a strip is why the "remain clear" is no
longer valid the next day.


I didn't make such a claim.



Either the strip is important or it's not. If it's not (as you are now
saying), then its absence the next day is completely irrelevant to the
question of whether the "remain clear" is still in effect.


The strip is a part of it. It is the record of the contact. The strip was
placed in the discard pile when the controller concluded he no longer wanted
Class C services.


 




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