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Old February 22nd 04, 06:38 AM
Chris Hoffmann
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That pretty much mirrors something a dear and wise friend had to say about
that footage. As she put it, the world should be reminded of the horror of
that day, and to remember that it's not just Manhattan or the US that's a
target, but anyone, anywhere.

That said, I'll just add this. While I agree that "it *is* an important day
in our history. And it *is* remarkable, unique aviation footage.", I think
you agree that the event depicted in those clips is far more emotionally and
historically significant than anything else on that page, and that bothers
me. It's just there, alphabetized along with airshow mishaps and such,
analogous to having the zapruder film on a page full of presidential parade
clips. I know it isn't your intention to cheapen 9/11, but as that page is,
that's the impression I get - another "cool" aviation video.

I'd suggest setting it apart from the others somehow. Not necessarily it's
own page, but just not lumped in with the rest as it is. But again, it's
just me thinking out loud here - you said you weighed adding them at all,
and I respect your right to operate your site as you see fit. Just a
thought.


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Old February 22nd 04, 01:57 PM
Jay Honeck
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It's just there, alphabetized along with airshow mishaps and such,
analogous to having the zapruder film on a page full of presidential

parade
clips. I know it isn't your intention to cheapen 9/11, but as that page

is,
that's the impression I get - another "cool" aviation video.


Excellent point. It does appear insensitive, the way they are currently
listed.

I will somehow put them in their own category, so they're not shown as just
another "cool video"...

Thanks for your input!
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Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old February 22nd 04, 04:17 PM
Bob Fry
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"Jay Honeck" writes:

It's just there, alphabetized along with airshow mishaps and such,
analogous to having the zapruder film on a page full of presidential

parade
clips. I know it isn't your intention to cheapen 9/11, but as that page

is,
that's the impression I get - another "cool" aviation video.


Excellent point. It does appear insensitive, the way they are currently
listed.

I will somehow put them in their own category, so they're not shown as just
another "cool video"...


If you do create a separate category for 9/11, you might have links to
a couple of sites with appropriate tributes to the victims, both
safety personnel (FDNY, police, and so on) and civilians. Not long
after 9/11 I saw a very moving site that had all the victims' names,
many of their photos, all animated with Enya's "Only Time" piece. I
tried to find it last night but Google by now has too many. Another
great site was that place in Utah, Salt Lake City I think, that had
American flags for each victim. I'll try to search around a bit and
offer URLs so as to save you some time.
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Old February 22nd 04, 06:12 PM
Jay Honeck
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If you do create a separate category for 9/11, you might have links to
a couple of sites with appropriate tributes to the victims, both
safety personnel (FDNY, police, and so on) and civilians.


I have rearranged the page a bit, hopefully to address this issue. See the
new version at http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm .

Comments and suggestions are welcome!
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old February 22nd 04, 06:14 PM
My suggestion
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Comments and suggestions are welcome!


Ok..... Stop spamming newsgroups.
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Old February 22nd 04, 07:35 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:14:23 GMT, My suggestion wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:


Comments and suggestions are welcome!


Ok..... Stop spamming newsgroups.


Subject: They're watching you...
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:10:21 GMT
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Subject: More Aviation Videos
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you are the same idi^Wcoward as on the other topic hiding behind faked
email addresses. YOU ARE A COWARD. stand with your name to your opinion.

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Old February 22nd 04, 07:56 PM
John T
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message


you are the same idi^Wcoward as on the other topic hiding behind faked
email addresses.


Without commenting on the validity of the coward accusation, you should know
better than to assume these two posts are from the same poster based on
nothing more than IP addresses. Surely someone in your line of work is
familiar with the concept of routers and gateways.

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Old February 22nd 04, 07:58 PM
Bob Fry
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Martin Hotze writes:
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Hi Martin, with respect to your cartoon of February 22, 2004 with the
headline "Another game for the US government to restrict because 'it
has bombs and stuff in it.'", followed by a picture of the Minesweeper
game; actually I think we'd be a lot more concerned if the game had
pictures of right-hand brown breasts in it, don't you think?
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Old February 22nd 04, 07:58 PM
Jay Honeck
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Ok..... Stop spamming newsgroups.

Um, at the risk of starting yet another dispute, why is posting a link to a
page of aviation videos not appropriate in a piloting newsgroup?

They aren't for sale. They are there for everyone to view.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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