Skyguide traffic controller killed

Dean Wilkinson wrote:

I read the preliminary findings, which included a transcript of the
communications... it was pretty clear.

So the investigation crew are all idiots since they need a year more
than you to understand what was really going on?

Stefan

That is very rude of you to call the investigation team idiots, I'm
sure that they would not be amused....

The investigators are required to follow a rigorous investigation
process, no matter how clear cut a case may be. That takes a lot of
time.

Stefan wrote in message ...
Dean Wilkinson wrote:

I read the preliminary findings, which included a transcript of the
communications... it was pretty clear.

So the investigation crew are all idiots since they need a year more
than you to understand what was really going on?

Stefan

Dean Wilkinson wrote:

That is very rude of you to call the investigation team idiots,

You obviously missed the question mark and the irony it implied.

The investigators are required to follow a rigorous investigation
process, no matter how clear cut a case may be. That takes a lot of
time.

Hmmm... Wasn't it you that claimed that reading the preliminary finding
was enough to have a full understanding of the case?

Stefan

Stefan wrote:

The investigators are required to follow a rigorous investigation
process, no matter how clear cut a case may be. That takes a lot of
time.

Hmmm... Wasn't it you that claimed that reading the preliminary finding
was enough to have a full understanding of the case?

Yes, and what he's saying here is that a process must be followed, even if it's
just a waste of time.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

Nope, never said such a thing. All I said was that it was clear that
the controller had screwed up... do you dispute that?

Stefan wrote in message ...
Dean Wilkinson wrote:

That is very rude of you to call the investigation team idiots,

You obviously missed the question mark and the irony it implied.

The investigators are required to follow a rigorous investigation
process, no matter how clear cut a case may be. That takes a lot of
time.

Hmmm... Wasn't it you that claimed that reading the preliminary finding
was enough to have a full understanding of the case?

Stefan

Dean Wilkinson wrote:

Nope, never said such a thing. All I said was that it was clear that
the controller had screwed up... do you dispute that?

Yes. Nothing is clear before I've read the full report.

Stefan

"Stefan" wrote in message
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Dean Wilkinson wrote:

Nope, never said such a thing. All I said was that it was clear that
the controller had screwed up... do you dispute that?

Yes. Nothing is clear before I've read the full report.


In fact, the controller has not even been killed until the police finish
their report, right Stefan?

In fact, the controller has not even been killed until the police finish
their report, right Stefan?

LOL, very funny C.J.

Now, just so nobody misunderstands me, just because I believe that the
controller made a mistake, I do not believe that the controller
deserved to be stabbed to death. I also believe that the Captain of
the Russian flight made a mistake as well, and he should have listened
to his first officer who kept pointing out that the TCAS system said
climb.

The controller was put in a difficult situation by his employer,
Skyguide. The Russians could benefit from better training in the TCAS
system and better Crew Resource Management.

I think that this case is a good example of why privatizing air
traffic control in the U.S.A. is a bad idea. When safety takes a back
seat to cost controls and profit margins, people die.

Dean Wilkinson

"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
"Stefan" wrote in message
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Dean Wilkinson wrote:

Nope, never said such a thing. All I said was that it was clear that
the controller had screwed up... do you dispute that?

Yes. Nothing is clear before I've read the full report.


In fact, the controller has not even been killed until the police finish
their report, right Stefan?

C J Campbell wrote:

In fact, the controller has not even been killed until the police finish
their report, right Stefan?

Actually, yes. That's how the legl system works here, and it does so for
good. There are libraries full of cases of people who innocently spent
years in prison or even have been executed and found to have been
unguilty later. Oh, and how was that with the "obvious" and "very clear"
fact that Iraq had WMDs? (Not to start a discussion about Iraq, please!)

So just let's wait what the final report will find.

Stefan