Got to land a King Air 90 today...

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:ITU%b.426694$na.929519@attbi_s04...
How does it feel to have turbine time in your logbook?

Well, TECHNICALLY, not being multi-engine rated, I suppose I can't
legally
log the time.

And TECHNICALLY, Ron's not a CFI, so I guess I can't legally can't log
the
time.

You can log whatever you want. You just can't use the time toward some
FAA
requirement. Make sure it's noted/excluded somehow, and otherwise put it
in
the log book however you want.

But you know what? I'm not building hours for anything or anyone. I'm
gonna write 'em in the book anyway! :-)

I'm still trying to figure out why TECHNICALLY you are permitted to
manipulate the controls during a for-pay charter flight, even if the
flight
is under Part 91.

I suspect you broke an FAR somewhere, but I admit that I don't know where
that FAR might be. Not in Part 91, I know that.

If the flight is part 91 then it is subject to part 91 rules, none of which
would forbid even a non-pilot from operating the controls.

The flight is not really a charter. A doctor donates the use of his airplane
and pilot to fly a mission for a related party. Hardly unusual and certainly
well within the limits of part 91. Now, whether the flight violated school
sports recruiting standards might be another matter. :-)

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

If the flight is part 91 then it is subject to part 91 rules, none of
which
would forbid even a non-pilot from operating the controls.

The flight is not really a charter. A doctor donates the use of his
airplane
and pilot to fly a mission for a related party. Hardly unusual and
certainly
well within the limits of part 91. Now, whether the flight violated school
sports recruiting standards might be another matter. :-)

Hey, Jay!! If it was the University of Colorado, they might have had a
stripper on-board.

Hey, Jay!! If it was the University of Colorado, they might have had a
stripper on-board.

A true sign that I'm getting older:

If I had to choose between having the stripper on board, with me as a
passenger -- or me on board, acting as co-pilot in the right seat -- I'd
choose the right seat.

Sad, ain't it?

Actually, now that I think about it, I guess that choice can't be made until
we know the ground rules with the stripper, can it?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

If I had to choose between having the stripper on board, with me as a
passenger -- or me on board, acting as co-pilot in the right seat -- I'd
choose the right seat.

You don't usually get to handle the controls with a stripper. :-(

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

If I had to choose between having the stripper on board, with me as a
passenger -- or me on board, acting as co-pilot in the right seat -- I'd
choose the right seat.

You don't usually get to handle the controls with a stripper. :-(

Which "controls" are you referring to?

Tom Sixkiller wrote:

You don't usually get to handle the controls with a stripper. :-(

Which "controls" are you referring to?

The tuning knobs, of course.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

G.R. Patterson III wrote:
You don't usually get to handle the controls with a stripper. :-(

Which "controls" are you referring to?

The tuning knobs, of course.

Reminds me of an old Reader's Digest, Campus Comedy tale...

A yound coed was having difficulty opening the drawers of her dorm room
bureau, so she put in a request for maintenance.

A day later, she was in the midst of changing when a knock came at the
door. She quickly through on a robe and answered the door.

It was the maintence man, who announced, "Hi, I'm here to fix the knobs
on your chest."

C.J.

Jay only handled the controls during the repositioning portion of
flight. No passengers/customers were aboard during this time.

Is the C90 rated for single pilot? If so, anyone pilot desires can
occupy the right seat even a passenger or customer.

Am I correct and will this make someone sleep better )

Big John

For what's it's worth. I used to let none rated fly both Heavy Iron
and GA. Even got my Flight Surgeon proficient enough he could have
landed the T-33 if I had had a heart attack. Sure made my annual
physical easier G

Welcome aboard Jay.


On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:42:11 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:


"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:ITU%b.426694$na.929519@attbi_s04...
How does it feel to have turbine time in your logbook?

Well, TECHNICALLY, not being multi-engine rated, I suppose I can't
legally
log the time.

And TECHNICALLY, Ron's not a CFI, so I guess I can't legally can't log
the
time.

You can log whatever you want. You just can't use the time toward some
FAA
requirement. Make sure it's noted/excluded somehow, and otherwise put it
in
the log book however you want.

But you know what? I'm not building hours for anything or anyone. I'm
gonna write 'em in the book anyway! :-)

I'm still trying to figure out why TECHNICALLY you are permitted to
manipulate the controls during a for-pay charter flight, even if the
flight
is under Part 91.

I suspect you broke an FAR somewhere, but I admit that I don't know where
that FAR might be. Not in Part 91, I know that.

If the flight is part 91 then it is subject to part 91 rules, none of which
would forbid even a non-pilot from operating the controls.

The flight is not really a charter. A doctor donates the use of his airplane
and pilot to fly a mission for a related party. Hardly unusual and certainly
well within the limits of part 91. Now, whether the flight violated school
sports recruiting standards might be another matter. :-)

"Big John" wrote in message
...
C.J.

Jay only handled the controls during the repositioning portion of
flight. No passengers/customers were aboard during this time.

Is the C90 rated for single pilot? If so, anyone pilot desires can
occupy the right seat even a passenger or customer.

Am I correct and will this make someone sleep better )

Big John

For what's it's worth. I used to let none rated fly both Heavy Iron
and GA. Even got my Flight Surgeon proficient enough he could have
landed the T-33 if I had had a heart attack. Sure made my annual
physical easier G

Welcome aboard Jay.

The C90 is rated for single pilot. In fact, it requires no type rating at
all. It is fairly easy to fly, but I still have to think that flying a
multi-engine turboprop single pilot IFR has to be one of the most exhausting
jobs in aviation.

FTR, I was not the one worried about Jay handling the controls. I suspect
his biggest problem was a tendency to taxi too fast. Everyone does that
first time out in a King Air.

C.J.


On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:18:02 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

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The C90 is rated for single pilot. In fact, it requires no type rating at
all. It is fairly easy to fly, but I still have to think that flying a
multi-engine turboprop single pilot IFR has to be one of the most exhausting
jobs in aviation.
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All single pilot IFR is exhausting. Most of my IFR was single pilot in
single and multi engine birds. Good pre planning helps a lot until all
hell breaks loose (
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FTR, I was not the one worried about Jay handling the controls. I suspect
his biggest problem was a tendency to taxi too fast. Everyone does that
first time out in a King Air.
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C.J. know that. I just hooked my comments behind yours to try to keep
in line on all the comments made. Sorry.

If he was in 'ground idle', speed was probably fast without a lot of
brake. Does the C90 have 'beta'? I used 'beta' in some of the birds I
flew to take some of the prop pitch off taxing so wouldn't wear the
brakes out.

Long time ago in a land far away )

Big John