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"Judah" wrote in message
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Perhaps the agenda of modern-day terrorists is not as clear as the agenda
of the Independence fighters who fought for independence and control of
their own countries...

Or, worse yet, perhaps the AGENDA is pretty clear, but the coutries they
are fighting for control of are not...

It has always struck me as the ultimate in obnoxiousness to claim that
fighting for democracy and the rule of law is somehow morally equivalent to
deliberately attacking non-combatants in an attempt to impose totalitarian
rule.

I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and history. If
the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in their plans, their
own history books will write it off as the Great War for Islamic
Independence during which their freedom fighters performed attack after
attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were finally conquered.

If we sit back and wait for it to happen, we will be written off in history
as the once great, but now fallen American Imperialist Empire.


"C J Campbell" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Perhaps the agenda of modern-day terrorists is not as clear as the
agenda of the Independence fighters who fought for independence and
control of their own countries...

Or, worse yet, perhaps the AGENDA is pretty clear, but the coutries
they are fighting for control of are not...

It has always struck me as the ultimate in obnoxiousness to claim that
fighting for democracy and the rule of law is somehow morally
equivalent to deliberately attacking non-combatants in an attempt to
impose totalitarian rule.

"Judah" wrote in message
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I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and history. If
the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in their plans,
their
own history books will write it off as the Great War for Islamic
Independence during which their freedom fighters performed attack after
attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were finally conquered.


Where is Islam being opressed by a western nation?

In the eyes of Radical Islamists? Are you kidding?

Israel - it exists
UK - it gave the land to Israel
America - it supported Israel
Spain - it supported America

and the list goes on. Remember - the history books I am talking about were
(or will have been) written in the new Arabic Empire...

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and
history. If the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in
their plans, their own history books will write it off as the Great
War for Islamic Independence during which their freedom fighters
performed attack after attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were
finally conquered.


Where is Islam being opressed by a western nation?

"Judah" wrote in message
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In the eyes of Radical Islamists? Are you kidding?

Israel - it exists
UK - it gave the land to Israel
America - it supported Israel
Spain - it supported America

The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).

The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).

Again, you're confusing terrorists with rebels.

Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.
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Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.

(oops, sorry about the prevous incomplete post)

Terrorists don't kill indiscriminately. They employ a very effective tactic of
killing and maiming the enemy. WE say they kill innocents, because it sounds
good. But it is not true. Those who died (and those who survived) the attacks
were guilty, most of them, of not supporting Islamic ideals in the eyes of the
terrorists.

Now, being guilty of that is not (in my eyes) a bad thing. But when one says
"innocent" it is important to say "innocent of what?" and align the answer with
the goals and ideals of the terrorists. Otherwise we are just saying, in
different words, that it was our ox that was gored, and that doesn't really say
much.

The way to defeat terrorism is to have it not work any more. This means
accepting the death and destruction without changing our policy. It means not
being afraid. When you were younger and people taunted you didn't people tell
you "ignore them and they'll go away"? Or if you were on the other side, if
you found that your taunts were ineffective, did you eventually give up?

That's the only way to "win" the war against terrorism. It involves accepting
the losses they inflict, while not inflicting more losses on ourselves.

Jose

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).

Again, you're confusing terrorists with rebels.

Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.

The jews in 1948 were indiscriminate killers. But by your definition the
Palestinians are rebels too and what they are doing is legitimate, fighting
for their native soil.

"S Green" wrote in message
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The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).


I believe the UN partitioned the land for separate Jewish and Arab states.
The Arabs objected to the Jewish state and attacked it. They lost.