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Old March 14th 04, 10:14 PM
S Green
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and history. If
the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in their plans,

their
own history books will write it off as the Great War for Islamic
Independence during which their freedom fighters performed attack after
attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were finally conquered.

If we sit back and wait for it to happen, we will be written off in

history
as the once great, but now fallen American Imperialist Empire.

And if we win we will be the bringers of light and freedom to the world.
The winner always writes the history so what


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Old March 15th 04, 02:38 AM
Judah
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So the world is full of terrorists, and has been for thousands of years.

The only way to deal with terrorists is to put the fear back into their own
hearts...




"S Green" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and
history. If the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in
their plans, their own history books will write it off as the Great
War for Islamic Independence during which their freedom fighters
performed attack after attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were
finally conquered.

If we sit back and wait for it to happen, we will be written off in
history as the once great, but now fallen American Imperialist Empire.

And if we win we will be the bringers of light and freedom to the
world. The winner always writes the history so what



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Old March 15th 04, 02:58 AM
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The only way to deal with terrorists is to put the fear back into their own
hearts...


It's not easy to frighten people willing to blow themselves up.

www.Rosspilot.com


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Old March 15th 04, 09:21 PM
Judah
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Sure it is.

The way to do it is to show them that the families they left behind will
not be rewarded for their actions. The way to do it is to show that the
punishment for suicide bombing is, for example, the destruction of their
home and the exile of their families.

Another alternative is to show their leaders what happens when they attack
our innocents...

That's what worked in Hiroshima and Nagasaki...


ospam (Rosspilot) wrote in
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The only way to deal with terrorists is to put the fear back into their
own hearts...


It's not easy to frighten people willing to blow themselves up.

www.Rosspilot.com




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Old March 15th 04, 11:57 PM
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"Judah" wrote:
Sure it is.


The way to do it is to show them that the families they left
behind will not be rewarded for their actions. The way to
do it is to show that the punishment for suicide bombing is,
for example, the destruction of their home and the exile
of their families.


No. That is precisely what the terrorists are attempting to goad us
into doing. Their goal is the radicalization of the whole Ialamic
world. The destruction of their homes and the exile of their families
would be an immense propaganda victory for them.

Indiscriminate vengeance and retaliation are their game; we'd be fools
to play it.

That's what worked in Hiroshima and Nagasaki...


Not analagous. For one thing, no one is in a position to "surrender"
for the terrorists. If Bin Laden, for instance, were to reach an
accomodation with the U. S., he would be denounced as a sellout and
replaced by other radicals eager to assume the title of Supreme Defender
of Islam.
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Old March 16th 04, 03:14 AM
Judah
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So what do you suggest?

I think if we draw the line for countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and
Morroco, it will be clear that they support the terrorists...


"Dan Luke" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote:
Sure it is.


The way to do it is to show them that the families they left
behind will not be rewarded for their actions. The way to
do it is to show that the punishment for suicide bombing is, for
example, the destruction of their home and the exile of their
families.


No. That is precisely what the terrorists are attempting to goad us
into doing. Their goal is the radicalization of the whole Ialamic
world. The destruction of their homes and the exile of their families
would be an immense propaganda victory for them.

Indiscriminate vengeance and retaliation are their game; we'd be fools
to play it.

That's what worked in Hiroshima and Nagasaki...


Not analagous. For one thing, no one is in a position to "surrender"
for the terrorists. If Bin Laden, for instance, were to reach an
accomodation with the U. S., he would be denounced as a sellout and
replaced by other radicals eager to assume the title of Supreme
Defender of Islam.


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Old March 16th 04, 11:08 PM
Peter Gottlieb
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"Judah" wrote in message
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So what do you suggest?

I think if we draw the line for countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and
Morroco, it will be clear that they support the terrorists...


May not be that simple. For example, my understanding is that Al Queda is
looking to unseat the present government in Saudi Arabia so the government
is fighting Al Queda and their ilk, yet there are people and organizations
in Saudi Arabia that are funding and quite sympathetic of these same groups.



 




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