We Are All Spaniards

Not in the eyes of the IRA. In the eyes of the IRA they are fighting for
the British to give back their land.

If they win, history will write that they were warriors and bravehearts...

Dylan Smith wrote in
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In article , Judah wrote:
Just as the they believe the IRA are terrorists...

The IRA *are* terrorists.

"Judah" wrote in message
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Not in the eyes of the IRA. In the eyes of the IRA they are fighting for
the British to give back their land.


Who said the land was ever theirs? This is a minority population demanding
secession from Britain for religious reasons. The majority of people living
in Northern Ireland like things the way they are.

(Of course, me ancestors were orange...)

C J Campbell wrote:

(Of course, me ancestors were orange...)

And, as I once told a third generation Irish-American friend of mine, "Kevin,
you forget. *My* ancestors *took* Ireland for the British in the first place."

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

"Judah" wrote in message
...
Not in the eyes of the IRA. In the eyes of the IRA they are fighting for
the British to give back their land.

If they win, history will write that they were warriors and bravehearts...

Thats the way, just pick and chose who you want to be terrorists and who are
not.

With your logic, the Al Quida probably dont think they are terrorists
either. They are fighting to secure a fundamental muslim homeland in a
muslim world corrupted or stolen by the west.
What's wrong with that. Except that it does not fit in with American
interests.
Whereas because of the Irish lobby in the US, support for the British
fighting Irish terrorists who did the majority of their bombing on the
mainland NOT Ireland was halfhearted.

A clear case of double standards.

"S Green" wrote in message
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They are fighting to secure a fundamental muslim homeland in a
muslim world corrupted or stolen by the west.

They are fighting to reestablish the Caliphate, last seen in the
11th century. They believe that any lands once conquered by
Muslims should be included in this part of this Caliphate. This
encompasses present day Spain, southern France, and
south-eastern Europe up as far as Vienna. The more loony
branches include the US in this too, since they believe that the
new world was discovered by Arab sailors in the 13th century.

They already have a fundamentalist Muslim homeland. It is called
Saudi Arabia. The west actually assured its creation; the British
and French defeating the invading Egyptians in the early 19th
century & the British aiding the Saud family in the Hijaz during WWI
against the Ottomans. Their corruption is a home grown affair.

What's wrong with that. Except that it does not fit in with American
interests.

Nothing, if you feel like living in the 7th century again.

Whereas because of the Irish lobby in the US, support for the British
fighting Irish terrorists who did the majority of their bombing on the
mainland NOT Ireland was halfhearted.

It was never the official policy of the US government to support IRA
terrorists, although it did influence thinking in the 30's (when JFKs
father was ambassador). Jack Kennedy, an ardent Irish Nationalist
supporter, counseled Roosevelt to keep out of the war by sending
reports back that the UK was on the verge of collapse prior to
WW2. Thanks Jack. Who knows how many millions died because
of his bias and stupidity.


A clear case of double standards.

I really can't see any similarities, except perhaps that you
seem to have a rather superficial understanding about both.

Had a great flight yesterday here in Las Vegas. A warm spring
day without the spring winds for a change. Managed to get routed
straight over the Strip, for an excellent view of the Bellagio and
Paris hotels, much to the excitement of my passengers.

You're totally missing it, man!

It's not my choice to make. Do you think the Al Queda terrorists think
that what they are doing is morally irreprehensible? Is that why they
call it a Holy War?

"S Green" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
...
Not in the eyes of the IRA. In the eyes of the IRA they are fighting
for the British to give back their land.

If they win, history will write that they were warriors and
bravehearts...

Thats the way, just pick and chose who you want to be terrorists and
who are not.

With your logic, the Al Quida probably dont think they are terrorists
either. They are fighting to secure a fundamental muslim homeland in a
muslim world corrupted or stolen by the west.
What's wrong with that. Except that it does not fit in with American
interests.
Whereas because of the Irish lobby in the US, support for the British
fighting Irish terrorists who did the majority of their bombing on the
mainland NOT Ireland was halfhearted.

A clear case of double standards.

In article , Judah wrote:
Not in the eyes of the IRA. In the eyes of the IRA they are fighting for
the British to give back their land.

They have the ballot box for that - there's no need for them to blow up
shopping malls in Manchester. Even though Britain is not part of the
United States, it is (shock horror!) a democracy!

Some people I think just enjoy killing. Now the IRA and Sinn Fein (I
wonder if Gerry Adams had to tick the 'Have you ever been a terrorist?'
box on his visa application form when he went to the US) have called a
cease fire, there's apparently parts of the IRA who aren't happy, and
splintered off calling themselves the 'Real IRA' and continuing to
perpetrate terrorist acts.

It's a great shame, too. Northern Ireland is a beautiful place.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
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"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

"Dylan Smith" wrote:
...parts of the IRA who aren't happy, and
splintered off calling themselves the 'Real IRA'
and continuing to perpetrate terrorist acts.

After a while, terrorism develops an inertia of its own that's hard to
stop. Terrorists become professionals: it's what they do for a living.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
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