We Are All Spaniards

Then I hope the terrorists are better informed than most people in
this group.

Now there is something I really don't want to hang our fate upon.

No one here says they're fighting Christianity, although that is the
under-current of the conversation. But their fight goes well beyond the
"US
and its allies." Rather, it encompasses all of Western civilization
and
Western morals and standards.

It was explicitly stated that this was a religious war (see cites
below).

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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We are in a religious war. We didn't choose it, but we've got it.

I think you are misinterpreting Dan's proclamation. We are in a "religious
war" of the terrorist's choosing -- not our own.

What I percieve is that a lot of people in the US can't face that they
are the target because that would mean they did something to deserve
it, and that seems to be unthinkable.

Your logic escapes me. How does blowing up innocents on trains in Spain,
blowing up innocents in a night club in Bali, and blowing up innocents in a
hotel in Baghdad punish the U.S.? And how did those people "deserve" it?

If the tenuous connection is "they're all allied with the U.S." well, by
your logic this conflict will have to escalate shortly into a world war.

More importantly, nothing you have said should dissuade anyone from feeling
total and utter contempt for the animals who have perpetrated these
atrocities -- against ALL of humanity.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:hzj6c.35852$po.317804@attbi_s52...
"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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We are in a religious war. We didn't choose it, but we've got it.

I think you are misinterpreting Dan's proclamation. We are in a "religious
war" of the terrorist's choosing -- not our own.

I am arguing that the terrorists are not fighting a religious war, but
a political one.

What I percieve is that a lot of people in the US can't face that they
are the target because that would mean they did something to deserve
it, and that seems to be unthinkable.

Your logic escapes me. How does blowing up innocents on trains in Spain,
blowing up innocents in a night club in Bali, and blowing up innocents in a
hotel in Baghdad punish the U.S.? And how did those people "deserve" it?
If the tenuous connection is "they're all allied with the U.S." well, by
your logic this conflict will have to escalate shortly into a world war.

You actually think the rest of the world is allied to the US??? You
must be kidding, right? Tell me, how many terrorist attacks have you
seen on Swizerland? Oh, but they are a democracy, aren't they? They
are a "western nation", aren't they? They share your values, don't
they? They treat their women as equals, don't they?

And I wouldn't call it a "tenuous connection". It is exactly what
Al-Quaeda says they're doing, and it is exactly what they *are* doing.
But it doesn't matter, people in the US just don't want to see it.
They cannot see themselves as "the bad guys", no matter how many
millions in the world scream in despair. Of course I am not saying the
terrorists are the good guys, but they *are* rational, and they *have*
a motive, and no, it has nothing to do with religion, as much as the
US is rational about this war, and they have a motive, and no, it has
nothing to do with freedom. Both the religion and the freedom
"motives" are nothing but propaganda on both sides. You chose to
believe it. Did you also buy the WMD argument?

More importantly, nothing you have said should dissuade anyone from feeling
total and utter contempt for the animals who have perpetrated these
atrocities -- against ALL of humanity.

Of course not!!!!!!!!!!! As much as I hate what the US has done to so
many countries, I felt absolutely horrified when WTC happened, and I
also felt terribly sorry for the Spaniards, and I totally adhere to
your original statement "We Are All Spaniards"!!! Terrorists attack
innocent people, regardless what their governments have done, and they
DONT deserve it!

I am not by any means trying to justify terrorism, I am only trying
explain what I percieve is a very narrow and self-centerd view of what
is happening. and that this view is causing more harm than good.