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"Frank" wrote in message ...

The Palestinians have many legitemite beefs and in that respect
are certainly fighting for their freedom.


In what way are they fighting for their freedom?

They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Frank" wrote in message ...

The Palestinians have many legitemite beefs and in that respect
are certainly fighting for their freedom.


In what way are they fighting for their freedom?

"Judah" wrote in message
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They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.


So their goal is conquest then.

They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.

So their goal is conquest then.


Is it conquest to take back what was taken from you? Is it theft to take back
what was stolen from you?

Of course you go back far enough everything was stolen. But if no action is
taken, the strip stays on the console.

Jose


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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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Is it conquest to take back what was taken from you? Is it theft to
take back what was stolen from you?


What was stolen? Who took it?

Is it conquest to take back what was taken from you? Is it theft to
take back what was stolen from you?

What was stolen? Who took it? [ Palastinians]


I don't know. However I believe that the Palistinians believe that their land
was stolen from them and they want it back. Everyone seems to have a claim on
the Holy Land, and everyone believes that the other's claims are invalid.

I don't know which is right (and don't want to get into the specifics here).
The question stands as above - in theory, if some country conquers land, and
the conquered nation attempts to take it back, would you characterize this
attempt as an attempt at conquest?

Knowing how you are using the words helps avoid misunderstanding them.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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I don't know. However I believe that the Palistinians believe that
their land was stolen from them and they want it back.


It wasn't stolen, they abandoned it. The Jews forced no Arabs off their
land. Many Arabs, those that are referred to as Palestinians, abandoned
their land in 1948 at the behest of their fellow Arabs in Jordan, Syria,
etc. They were to leave while the Arab states forced the Jews off their
lands and drove them into the sea, then the Arabs would return and have all
of the land. Israel would not exist. But the Arabs lost the war, and those
that had abandoned their land within the new state of Israel were now
homeless. The Arabs that didn't abandon their land are now citizens of
Israel. They vote, hold seats in the Knesset, and have the highest standard
of living among any Arabs in the world. Other than the relative few that
control large quantities of oil, of course.

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.

So their goal is conquest then.


Is it conquest to take back what was taken from you? Is it theft to take
back
what was stolen from you?


Israel is the only country that has ever been there. It has been ruled by
various colonial powers from time to time. The Romans called the area
'Palestine' after the extinct Philistines in order to insult the Jews living
there. But it has always been basically the same country.

The 'Palestinians' are an Arabic tribe that is neither native to the area
nor have they ever had a national identity. Their goal is conquest in a vain
attempt to restore the great Islamic empire that held Israel in subjugation
during the Middle Ages.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Judah" wrote in message
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They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.

So their goal is conquest then.

No, it's reversal of conquest.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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No, it's reversal of conquest.


Oh? What conquest do they seek to reverse?