We Are All Spaniards

(Alex) wrote

I hope so. What I don't know, is whose freedom will eventually win.

pac sez:

Yes, this is the question. Do the ragheads have the freedom to be
left alone in their own countries in their own caves to torture
victims, rape women, burn books and kill media reporters? Not if our
bleeding heart liberals and lawyers have anything to say about it.
This is more than just a fight about religion. It's a fight about
keeping Western ideas out of the new "iron/sand" curtain of Islam. Al
Quieda is just using religion to add steam to the jihad. It's also a
fight about pussy. Over here you essentially have to buy it; over
there you grab it and make it afraid of you. If that doesn't work,
relax, you'll get more virgins than you know what to do with when you
die. It's also a fight against the "haves." International
corporations have been screwing those peasants for years by exploiting
labor for a dollar a day without offering any employment benifits
whatsoever. But don't feel exploited by the U.S. and it's
unscrupulous captains of international industry (like Cheney.) You
can always quit your job and move into the sand. Tyranny was a lot
worse in the Brittish and Roman Empires. You didn't get any choice
there.

What I don't understand is why are we wasting money rebuilding Iraq?
We're just going to have to go back and bomb it in a few years from
now anyway. Those Bathist control freaks are just fading into the
crowd until we leave. The day we're gone, they'll pop out of the
woodwork, burn US flags and crank up the mass grave backhoes again.

Freedom Alex, is exactly what the sole remaining superpower says it
is. Unlike most Americans, I don't believe that everyone deserves it.
I think a population has to be brave enough to overthrow their own
despots. I think Jay is right about random bombers. Kill them all.
Issue a new deck of terrorist cards and make those cards redeemable
for large amounts of compensation when they are returned along with
said terrrorist's head in a sack.

The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes. I shutter to think what
would happen to me if I wrote the above in downtown Tehran. (which is
the next place we need to take off the map.)

pacplyer - out

On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

Freedom Alex, is exactly what the sole remaining superpower says it
is. Unlike most Americans, I don't believe that everyone deserves it.

Freedom has to be earned.

I think a population has to be brave enough to overthrow their own
despots. I think Jay is right about random bombers. Kill them all.
Issue a new deck of terrorist cards and make those cards redeemable
for large amounts of compensation when they are returned along with
said terrrorist's head in a sack.

well, and who makes the list and who makes one a terrorist? CIA? FBI? NATO?
EU? Vatican? The mayor of Otumba, IO?

#m
--
A far-reaching proposal from the FBI (...) would require all broadband
Internet providers, including cable modem and DSL companies, to rewire
their networks to support easy wiretapping by police.
http://news.com.com/2100-1028-5172948.html

Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..
On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

Freedom Alex, is exactly what the sole remaining superpower says it
is. Unlike most Americans, I don't believe that everyone deserves it.

Freedom has to be earned.

I think a population has to be brave enough to overthrow their own
despots. I think Jay is right about random bombers. Kill them all.
Issue a new deck of terrorist cards and make those cards redeemable
for large amounts of compensation when they are returned along with
said terrrorist's head in a sack.

well, and who makes the list and who makes one a terrorist? CIA? FBI? NATO?
EU? Vatican? The mayor of Otumba, IO?

#m


Good Point Martin. I don't think I want any of those groups you
listed by themselves making the list. And it's true in the Mideast
that one man's patriot is another man's terrorist. How about basing
it on the taking of lives of innocent bystanders. That way, we could
include Los Angeles gangsters on the list too, who participate in
random drive-by-shootings for member initiation. BTW, I noticed you
left the UN off that list. Probably wise, since they move so slowly.

pac

Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..
On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

Freedom Alex, is exactly what the sole remaining superpower says it
is. Unlike most Americans, I don't believe that everyone deserves it.

Freedom has to be earned.

Excuse me? Who are you? A slave owner?

Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..

Freedom has to be earned.



What a dumbass thing to say. Freedom is a god given right.

On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here

thre are many countries with a higher standard.

and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes.

true

I shutter to think what
would happen to me if I wrote the above in downtown Tehran.

you would not make many friends.

(which is
the next place we need to take off the map.)

says who? and why should one wonder if some guy in Teheran thinks the same
about NY?

#m

--
A far-reaching proposal from the FBI (...) would require all broadband
Internet providers, including cable modem and DSL companies, to rewire
their networks to support easy wiretapping by police.
http://news.com.com/2100-1028-5172948.html

Please, Martin, he's not worth your effort...


Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..
On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here

thre are many countries with a higher standard.

and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes.

true

I shutter to think what
would happen to me if I wrote the above in downtown Tehran.

you would not make many friends.

(which is
the next place we need to take off the map.)

says who? and why should one wonder if some guy in Teheran thinks the same
about NY?

#m

Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..
On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here

there are many countries with a higher standard.

Yes, that's true. I should have said "much of the world." But out of
the almost three hundred countries in the world, the U.S. has
two-hundred below it by most measures, and that's what we're talking
about here. The "have-not" countries seem to be havens for terrorist
groups.

and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes.

true

I shutter to think what
would happen to me if I wrote the above in downtown Tehran.

you would not make many friends.

(which is
the next place we need to take off the map.)

says who? and why should one wonder if some guy in Teheran thinks the same
about NY?

#m

Let's see... they been burning American flags in the streets of Iran
for thirty years. Martin, we already know what the fundamentalist
movement there thinks of the U.S. Next target? Says who? The next
U.S. president, that's who (I elect that man to office.) The
significant questions for the next U.S. administration a 1. Is it a
safe haven for terrorists? 2. Is the WMD program a significant threat
or, just as bad, unknown.

I for one, will support any invasion to discover those facts if
inspectors are not happy. I am however, against long occupation, like
our situation in Iraq. Why is it: the bleeding hearts always favor
Isolationism? If one sticks his head in the sand and says: I have no
proof of nuke development, therefore I shall not invade; that does not
stop a functioning warhead from entering his city once OBL's guys
finally get enough componants somewhere to put one together.

pacplyer

Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..

On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:


The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here

there are many countries with a higher standard.



No, there's not.

this guy is a net troll, he's using at least (6) other usernames,
killfile him ASAP, below is his posting history

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...5xS36mXc24h6ww


see the link above, he is using
at least (10) other usernames on Usenet, they include


MARCO R
ROBERT J. KOLKER
ROBERT MORIEN
NEWPS
ASK A DIFFERENT
ROBERT KOLKER
EARL KIOSTERUD
therefore, he has no credibility- merely another net troll