We Are All Spaniards

On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here

thre are many countries with a higher standard.

and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes.

true

I shutter to think what
would happen to me if I wrote the above in downtown Tehran.

you would not make many friends.

(which is
the next place we need to take off the map.)

says who? and why should one wonder if some guy in Teheran thinks the same
about NY?

#m

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 02:41:24 -0000, S Green wrote:


The politicians cocked it up not the Spanish people just as the politicians
have cocked up the whole war against terror/Iraq with their lies and
economies with the truth.


And as the old government in Spain wanted to shed some light on the issue
they blamed intelligence for their bad work. Now, does this sound familiar?

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"Judah" wrote in message
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I bet the British at the time would have disagreed with you. I am certain
they believed the American rebels / freedom fighters were terrorists.


Why is that? Did the Americans attack civilians in Britain?

"Judah" wrote in message
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I can probably find sources that would indicate that innocent people
were killed in many wars for independence. But that is not the point.

I think you missed my point. People like you and I absolutely recognize
the agenda of the Arab terrorists, and the Arab nations that sponsor them
(some of whom we call "allies"). But the agenda of these terrorists must
not be clear to many people because there are still people out there,
like the poster to whom I replied and at least one other in this thread,
who believe that the way to stop terrorism is to change foreign policy
and "keep our nose out of other country's business."


Well, we should be keeping our nose out of other country's business.
That's got nothing to do with terrorism.

Judah wrote in message . ..

In the eyes of Radical Islamists? Are you kidding?

Israel - it exists
UK - it gave the land to Israel


How much land did the UK give to the Arabs?

"S Green" wrote in message
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How many Americans register to vote and how many actually do?

Depends on whether you live in Chicago or not...

Frankly, it is the totalitarian dictatorships that get high voter turnout.
If you are free you may not feel the need to vote -- a lot of people don't
feel strongly one way or another and they like it that way.

Low voter turnout is a symptom of freedom, not the denial of it.

I realize that this goes against the political parties which encourage high
voter turnout in order to validate their 'mandate.' But the fact is that in
America people don't vote unless the government steps on their toes.

It only seems right to me that those who care the most about issues are the
ones who vote and have the most say.

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.

So their goal is conquest then.


Is it conquest to take back what was taken from you? Is it theft to take
back
what was stolen from you?


Israel is the only country that has ever been there. It has been ruled by
various colonial powers from time to time. The Romans called the area
'Palestine' after the extinct Philistines in order to insult the Jews living
there. But it has always been basically the same country.

The 'Palestinians' are an Arabic tribe that is neither native to the area
nor have they ever had a national identity. Their goal is conquest in a vain
attempt to restore the great Islamic empire that held Israel in subjugation
during the Middle Ages.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Judah" wrote in message
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They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.

So their goal is conquest then.

No, it's reversal of conquest.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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No, it's reversal of conquest.


Oh? What conquest do they seek to reverse?

Depends how far back you go...

Prior to 1967, it was supposed to be controlled by the UN.

Prior to 1948, it was controlled by The British Empire.

Before that, the Turkish Ottoman Empire...

It has been controled by Romans and Babylonians, too.

If you trace it back far enough, you will find it was controlled by some
Giants. And one book even refers to a guy who killed a Ram and had a meal
there with his son - before there even were Jews or Arabs.

Of course, all that is about as relevant as Spain, Britian and France
making their claims on their respective parts of the US.



"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Judah" wrote in message
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They are fighting for the freedom to control Jerusalem again.

So their goal is conquest then.

No, it's reversal of conquest.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot
that would
not yield to the tongue.