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Old March 24th 04, 08:34 PM
John Harper
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Up until this thread, I always thought Jay was a decent guy.
I looked forward sometime to flying across the country and
staying at his hotel.

This thread has been an eye-openeer, and this particular mail
has finally prompted me to get to my keyboard. This is unbelievably
patronising. The former Spanish government took Spain into
a war against the expressed will of the Spanish people, just
as my government's country did (the United Kingdom). The purported
basis for the war has been demonstrated now to have been false.
The Spanish people have voted, in a democratic way, to remove
that government.

I know it's hard for quite a few Americans to accept it (evidently
including Jay), but just because the US government wants to do
something, doesn't mean that everyone in the whole world should
agree with them.

Guess if I ever do come to Iowa City (not honestly very likely), I'll
be looking for another hotel.

John

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Jcj8c.83648$_w.1132827@attbi_s53...
No problem, there's obviously no point in arguing with you. One last
thing I would like to say, though. In this discussion you have shown
how far from being a Spaniard you are, inspite of your own subject
line.


Sorry, Alex. I completely misread the situation in Spain, and my feelings
of solidarity with them were clearly misplaced. If you had followed the
more recent thread "We are All Spaniards -- NOT", you would know how I

feel
about this.

I stopped "Being a Spaniard" the moment the Spanish electorate handed the
terrorists their biggest victory. They have endangered us all in a way

that
cannot be measured.

I still feel compassion for the innocent victims, but it is plainly

evident
that the Spanish people have rightly earned their world status as a
third-tier nation. It's hard to believe that these same people once

ruled
the seas, and much of the world.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old March 24th 04, 09:46 PM
Ben Jackson
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In article 1080160340.555275@sj-nntpcache-5,
John Harper wrote:
The Spanish people have voted, in a democratic way, to remove
that government.

I know it's hard for quite a few Americans to accept it


My cat frequently leads me to the counter by the treats and whines.
I can sit here in my office and think, "I will give the cat a treat no
matter what," before I go downstairs. If I go to give him a treat and
he runs in front of me and whines before I do, it doesn't matter to my
cat that there is a perfectly logical alternative reason why he got a
treat. The lesson that is reinforced for him is, "I whine, I get treats".

I've seen plenty of perfectly logical alternative explanations to the
outcome of the Spanish elections. I don't think any of them will dissuade
terrorists from learning the lesson, "I can change the election if I blow
stuff up."

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Ben Jackson

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Old March 24th 04, 09:58 PM
S Green
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"Ben Jackson" wrote in message
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In article 1080160340.555275@sj-nntpcache-5,
John Harper wrote:
The Spanish people have voted, in a democratic way, to remove
that government.

I know it's hard for quite a few Americans to accept it


My cat frequently leads me to the counter by the treats and whines.
I can sit here in my office and think, "I will give the cat a treat no
matter what," before I go downstairs. If I go to give him a treat and
he runs in front of me and whines before I do, it doesn't matter to my
cat that there is a perfectly logical alternative reason why he got a
treat. The lesson that is reinforced for him is, "I whine, I get treats".

I've seen plenty of perfectly logical alternative explanations to the
outcome of the Spanish elections. I don't think any of them will dissuade
terrorists from learning the lesson, "I can change the election if I blow
stuff up."


You guys are real cry babies


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Old March 24th 04, 09:48 PM
Jay Honeck
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Guess if I ever do come to Iowa City (not honestly very likely), I'll
be looking for another hotel.


Sad, but we'll get by without you, John.

If a conversation about world politics so upsets your delicate nature, I can
only wonder how you survive in the real world.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old March 24th 04, 09:58 PM
S Green
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Guess if I ever do come to Iowa City (not honestly very likely), I'll
be looking for another hotel.


Sad, but we'll get by without you, John.

If a conversation about world politics so upsets your delicate nature, I

can
only wonder how you survive in the real world.

Jerk!


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Old March 24th 04, 10:05 PM
Jay Honeck
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If a conversation about world politics so upsets your delicate nature, I
can
only wonder how you survive in the real world.

Jerk!


Wow -- you must've thought long and hard on that one before pushing
"Send"...

Why is it that people of your ilk can't seem to discuss world events like
gentlemen?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old March 24th 04, 10:14 PM
Wdtabor
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If a conversation about world politics so upsets your delicate nature, I

can
only wonder how you survive in the real world.

Jerk!


Wow -- you must've thought long and hard on that one before pushing
"Send"...

Why is it that people of your ilk can't seem to discuss world events like
gentlemen?
--



Because when people's political position is based entirely on emotion and
devoid of logic, refuting it doesn't just challenge their ideas, it challenges
their identity. They react to disagreement as though it were an attack on them
personally.

Don

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Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG
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Old March 25th 04, 02:11 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
newsCn8c.84520$Cb.1106337@attbi_s51...
If a conversation about world politics so upsets your delicate nature,

I
can
only wonder how you survive in the real world.

Jerk!


Wow -- you must've thought long and hard on that one before pushing
"Send"...


Yes...for him.

Why is it that people of your ilk can't seem to discuss world events like
gentlemen?


Probably because he's NOT a gentleman, and he certainly doesn't seem mature.
Petulant brat is more the indication. No wonder so many not only _want_ a
welfare state, but NEED one.








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Old March 26th 04, 09:16 PM
S Green
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
news

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
newsCn8c.84520$Cb.1106337@attbi_s51...
If a conversation about world politics so upsets your delicate

nature,
I
can
only wonder how you survive in the real world.
Jerk!


Wow -- you must've thought long and hard on that one before pushing
"Send"...


Yes...for him.

Why is it that people of your ilk can't seem to discuss world events

like
gentlemen?


Probably because he's NOT a gentleman, and he certainly doesn't seem

mature.
Petulant brat is more the indication. No wonder so many not only _want_ a
welfare state, but NEED one.

Redneck


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Old March 25th 04, 02:29 AM
Devil's Advocate
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Why is it that people of your ilk can't seem to discuss world events like
gentlemen?


Maybe because some of the other worldly people in this group get fed up
with watching some of you Americans discuss it like assholes.
 




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