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Old March 25th 04, 05:31 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
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I wonder how many of those 29% were the ones who got bounced from

their
positions of power and privilege?

I wonder how many of those 29% have lost a loved one in the current

war?

How many of the 71% lost one BEFORE the war?


I think the point here is that perhaps we shouldn't dismiss someone's
opinion based on information that we simply don't have. Remember the

little
conversation we had about classifying opinions we disagree with as
"tantrums"?


Dismissing a difference of (well founded) opinion and dismissing a tantrum
are two VERY different things. Someone comes off as a whiney brat and one
really doesn't give a damn what they opinion is. Unsubstantiated claims,
logical fallacies are bad enough, but the tantrums come when someone starts
seeing they're LOSING..particularly a cherished belief (i.e., a security
blanket). You do know the difference, I'd imagine, so don't patronize, okay?


For example, there's been a bunch of stories about people in Iraq that lost
loved ones in the war and are still grateful to see Saddam ousted.

Another example would be to look up the story of the farmer whose family
members were killed in an accidental bombing my Lt. George McGovern during
the later days of WW2. They managed to talk some 30 -35 years later and the
conversation is amazing. Look it up!




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Old March 26th 04, 04:14 PM
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I think that was Iraqis.

Paul

"Newps" wrote in message
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Last week I heard that 70% of the Brits approved of the war. Was this
in error?



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Old March 26th 04, 11:42 PM
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Last week I heard that 70% of the Brits approved of the war. Was this
in error?


I think that was Iraqis.


NPR mentioned today that the Iraqi people have imported over half a million
new cars since the war's end -- the highest amount ever -- and they now face
a gasoline shortage for the first time. And oil exports have now rebounded
to a higher level than before the war, bringing over $1 billion per month
into the Iraqi treasury. .

Their economy is booming.

Of course, NPR mentioned this only in passing, with great reluctance. It
was almost like they were apologizing to their listeners for reporting
something good from Iraq. (They, of course, ended with reports of more
sabotage in the oil fields, just to placate the faithful...)
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Old March 27th 04, 06:34 PM
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In article ed39c.101758$_w.1314500@attbi_s53, Jay Honeck wrote:
Of course, NPR mentioned this only in passing, with great reluctance. It
was almost like they were apologizing to their listeners for reporting
something good from Iraq. (They, of course, ended with reports of more
sabotage in the oil fields, just to placate the faithful...)


The BBC quite happily reports the improvements, as well as the bad
stuff.

For the record, I'm pro kicking-out-Saddam Hussein. I think many of the
anti-war lot seem to like to conveniently forget he actually used
weapons of mass destruction on his own people. I was appalled when we
didn't kick him out in the first war. What I don't like is how our
politicians - if not outright lied, were economic with the truth to try
and justify the war. I think the war would have enjoyed broader support
if politicians hadn't been such weasels over it. Although I support the
war, I don't support the way in which our politicians tried to justify
it.

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Old March 27th 04, 09:04 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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In article ed39c.101758$_w.1314500@attbi_s53, Jay Honeck wrote:
Of course, NPR mentioned this only in passing, with great reluctance.

It
was almost like they were apologizing to their listeners for reporting
something good from Iraq. (They, of course, ended with reports of more
sabotage in the oil fields, just to placate the faithful...)


The BBC quite happily reports the improvements, as well as the bad
stuff.


Absolute Bull****!!!


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Old March 27th 04, 11:24 PM
Dylan Smith
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In article , Tom Sixkiller wrote:
The BBC quite happily reports the improvements, as well as the bad
stuff.


Absolute Bull****!!!


If that's absolute bull****, why did the PM programme on Radio 4 last
week have a substantial article on how things have improved in Iraq last
week? Why have they been mentioning improvements in the general life of
Iraqis, including interviews with people living there on several
occasions over the last few weeks?

You are clueless, I'm afraid.

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Old March 27th 04, 11:39 PM
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
In article , Tom Sixkiller wrote:
The BBC quite happily reports the improvements, as well as the bad
stuff.


Absolute Bull****!!!


If that's absolute bull****, why did the PM programme on Radio 4 last
week have a substantial article on how things have improved in Iraq last
week? Why have they been mentioning improvements in the general life of
Iraqis, including interviews with people living there on several
occasions over the last few weeks?

You are clueless, I'm afraid.

Dylan,

Have you only just worked that out or have you just been taking the **** out
of him.


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Old March 28th 04, 02:21 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...
In article , Tom Sixkiller wrote:
The BBC quite happily reports the improvements, as well as the bad
stuff.


Absolute Bull****!!!


If that's absolute bull****, why did the PM programme on Radio 4 last
week have a substantial article on how things have improved in Iraq last
week?


Last week, huh?

Why have they been mentioning improvements in the general life of
Iraqis, including interviews with people living there on several
occasions over the last few weeks?


Wow...after a year of propaganda...


You are clueless, I'm afraid.


And you're gullible...I'm sure.


 




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