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Old March 28th 04, 10:40 AM
Dylan Smith
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In article , Tom Sixkiller wrote:
Why have they been mentioning improvements in the general life of
Iraqis, including interviews with people living there on several
occasions over the last few weeks?


Wow...after a year of propaganda...


What propaganda? The BBC has broadcast both sides of the story on its
news programmes. The "Today" programme grills anti-war politicians just
as hard as it grills the pro-war politicians, and has done so over the
past year. The BBC reporting the improvement in life in Iraq is nothing
new.

But then again, to you, anything that doesn't purely output "pro-war" in
its programming is propaganda.

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Old March 28th 04, 12:19 PM
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:52:27 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:


For the moment, the anti-nuke crowd controls the dialogue, simply because
there is no compelling reason to adapt nuclear energy. For 95% of the
population, the energy debate is a non-starter, and totally off of their
radar screens, because energy is cheap and plentiful.

Just wait until their lights and air conditioners start clicking off, one by
one, however. THEN you will see how truly weak the anti-nuclear crowd is --
and nuclear power plants will start popping up all over the planet once
again.


Jay, you are mixing up your first paragraph with your second one.

Energy is cheap in your country (and widely available). There are many
regions on this planet where energy is either hardly available or expensive
(or both) or there are enough alternatives to nuclear power. Others are
very good in preserving and saving energy (without losing much comfort).

What might be a working solution for one geographic area might not be
useful for another one.

#m

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Old March 28th 04, 12:28 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:55:00 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:

That is our intent in Iraq. My prediction is that it will not work.


I fear you may be right, but it is our duty to try. The alternatives are
simply not acceptable.


I'd give the odds at no better than 10:1 until there's a significant
cultural change in the Middle East.



there will be no cultural change in that area.

#m

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Old March 28th 04, 02:52 PM
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Dylan Smith wrote:
It doesn't matter how much - energy will be lost in the process.


Of course it will, but don't neglect conversion
efficiencies and alternative energy sources.

The net efficiency of converting crude oil to gasoline,
distribution down to the individual car at a few gallons
at a time then to locomotion via the piston
engine/transmission/drive train is very poor.

In a fuel cell system, various materials including crude
oil, natural gas, etc. would be converted to hydrogen in
bulk then distributed with less evaporation loss and
converted to locomotion with fuel cell/electric motors
that have a much higher conversion efficiency than the
piston engine/transmission/drive train


Soup to nuts the net conversion of BTU's to mechanical
energy would be better. No violation of thermodynamics,
just modern engineering.

Neither crude oil nor natural gas have to be involved at
all. Solar panels or nucler reactors can supply the
energy to crack water directly.

Finally has been good progress on the Direct Methanol Fuel
Cell which has the advantage of using a low pressure
liquid in the car.


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Old March 28th 04, 03:09 PM
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It's certainly possible. On the other hand, it's also possible that
those actions made *more* countries want to side with and support the
soviets. After all, it made siding with *us* seem unacceptable, and
what else was there? So perhaps it greatly strengthened the SU and
greatly extended the cold war.


Interesting hypothesis.

Hard to tease the facts out of the fluff on that one, too.
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Old March 28th 04, 03:10 PM
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there will be no cultural change in that area.

Then there will never be peace.


Oh, there will be change.

Whoever wins this war will set up the predominant culture.
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Old March 28th 04, 03:11 PM
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What might be a working solution for one geographic area might not be
useful for another one.


True.
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Old March 28th 04, 03:14 PM
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:29:55 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

I'd give the odds at no better than 10:1 until there's a significant
cultural change in the Middle East.



there will be no cultural change in that area.


Then there will never be peace.


There might be something like peace within the area without outside
influence. But there will always be outside influence. Well, I am no
prophet, but I guess you are right with your assumption. There will never
be peace.

#m

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Old March 28th 04, 03:50 PM
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:
I'm guessing you meant (if you did't have such a propensity for

sniiping
EVERYTHING that sets context we wouldn't have the issue)


Your reading comprehension difficulties are not my problem.

Now, we might as well close because the origin of discussion is
lost and it's down to vauge, obtuse snippets.


AMF


 




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