Circular Runway

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On 02 Apr 2004 14:48:42 GMT, (Hjk40) wrote in
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I actually remember reading about the circular runway in the early 1960's

For security reasons, subterranean runways/airports were proposed
during WW-II. Perhaps the time has come to consider that proposal
again.

Wow, think of the windshear.

Paul (who got 20 knots of it descending below an edge of a
forest last week)

For security reasons, subterranean runways/airports were proposed
during WW-II. Perhaps the time has come to consider that proposal
again.

Switzerland in the 1970s (and probably before and since) had
underground hangars built into the mountainside. However, the planes
taxied out of them and onto the highway, which became the runway.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Cub Driver wrote:

For security reasons, subterranean runways/airports were proposed
during WW-II. Perhaps the time has come to consider that proposal
again.

Switzerland in the 1970s (and probably before and since) had
underground hangars built into the mountainside. However, the planes
taxied out of them and onto the highway, which became the runway.

I dunno about that. There isn't a straight stretch of road or highway
in all the mountainous areas of Switzerland, it seems to me. And I've
been on 'em, on those Postal Bus routes. It'd be a mighty short-field
technique taking off from one of those roads!

They do have air bases in CH which have regular-old runways.

Rob

"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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I dunno about that. There isn't a straight stretch of road or highway
in all the mountainous areas of Switzerland, it seems to me. And I've
been on 'em, on those Postal Bus routes. It'd be a mighty short-field
technique taking off from one of those roads!

Dan is exactly correct. Air & Space Magazine ran a feature about it a few
years ago. The highways used for runways are straight enough, and they have
a removable divider between the lane directions so that the aircraft have
use of the full width of the pavement.

Perhaps they do use short-field techniques, but they do have air bases in
mountain-sides and they do use the highway for the runway.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote:

"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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I dunno about that. There isn't a straight stretch of road or highway
in all the mountainous areas of Switzerland, it seems to me. And I've
been on 'em, on those Postal Bus routes. It'd be a mighty short-field
technique taking off from one of those roads!

Dan is exactly correct. Air & Space Magazine ran a feature about it a few
years ago. The highways used for runways are straight enough, and they have
a removable divider between the lane directions so that the aircraft have
use of the full width of the pavement.

Hmm. I'd never have supposed it, riding on those roads. Unless you're
talking about the Schweizerautobahn it doesn't seem to me that any of
the Swiss federal or cantonal roads are wide enough for more than a GA
aircraft. Is the article online someplace?

FWIW, I've heard similar things about a stretch of highway outside of
Frankfurt.

Rob

"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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[...] Is the article online someplace?

If it is, you'll find it at http://www.airandspacemagazine.com

They do have tables of contents for all of their back issues, to 1986. The
article I read was sometime in the last ten years for sure. In a quick
look, I noticed that the Feb/Mar 2001 issue has an article called "Don't
Mess With Switzerland", but I don't remember the article well enough to know
whether that's the one that talked about their in-mountain bases. That
article's not online anyway.

I scanned the list of articles they do have online, and didn't see anything
that caught my eye. Your best bet is to browse through the last five or ten
years of issues (there's only six per year, so that's not as daunting as it
sounds ) and see if any of the other article titles sound promising. Of
course, it wouldn't hurt to see if a nearby library of yours has the Feb/Mar
2001 issue, in case that article turns out to be the one I'm thinking of.

I might actually still have the Feb/Mar 2001 issue around, so if I get a
chance I'll look for it. But generally, I recycle the magazines every 12 to
18 months, so I probably don't.

Pete

Feb/Mar 2001 issue has an article called "Don't
Mess With Switzerland",

I don't think so. The piece you're remembering may even have been a
short "Soundings" or other department, not a feature article.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote:

"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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There isn't a straight stretch of road or highway
in all the mountainous areas of Switzerland, it seems to me.

Dan is exactly correct. Air & Space Magazine ran a feature about it a
few
years ago. The highways used for runways are straight enough, and they
have
a removable divider between the lane directions so that the aircraft have
use of the full width of the pavement.

Unless you're
talking about the Schweizerautobahn it doesn't seem to me that any of
the Swiss federal or cantonal roads are wide enough for more than a GA
aircraft.

FWIW, I've heard similar things about a stretch of highway outside of
Frankfurt.

Sweden also do it.

Britain has the Harrier so doesn't need to do it! :-) Mind you
it also has plenty of runways.

Paul

FWIW, I've heard similar things about a stretch of highway outside of
Frankfurt.

The U.S. Army used the autobahn as as airports. There's a great photo
of a flock of L-4s lined up on the verge. Evidently when the "airport"
was in operation they simply closed that lane and put all the traffic
on the other one. Americans didn't have much experience with divided
highways in 1945.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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"Peter Duniho" wrote:

"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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I dunno about that. There isn't a straight stretch of road or highway
in all the mountainous areas of Switzerland, it seems to me. And I've
been on 'em, on those Postal Bus routes. It'd be a mighty short-field
technique taking off from one of those roads!

Dan is exactly correct. Air & Space Magazine ran a feature about it a
few
years ago. The highways used for runways are straight enough, and they
have
a removable divider between the lane directions so that the aircraft have
use of the full width of the pavement.

Hmm. I'd never have supposed it, riding on those roads. Unless you're
talking about the Schweizerautobahn it doesn't seem to me that any of
the Swiss federal or cantonal roads are wide enough for more than a GA
aircraft. Is the article online someplace?

FWIW, I've heard similar things about a stretch of highway outside of
Frankfurt.
An hour and a half west of Frankfurt there is a long, straight road near
Ramstein AB. A retired USAF pilot told me that Hitler used this for an
emergency landing strip.